1010music Bluebox

I’m curious how the internal reverb and other effects are.

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If they’re anything like the Blackbox ones, they’re probably pretty good. I’ll be using them a lot for test.

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I just picked up a k-mix, after the bluebox was announced.
K-mix list price is very expensive, but deals pop up now and again. It has its pros and cons like everything- but I love the AUX sends for tying my samplers ins and outs together. Still have a bit to learn about it.

The blackbox is a great product, and I’m sure the blue will also be good.

I just get this feeling that 1010music is growing faster than they can handle.
For example, they never released any docs to accompany the most recent major firmware update; one that included visible interface changes. (Someone correct me if there’s a 1.6.5 doc in existence)

Perhaps it’s nit-picky but I’m not going all-in on more of their gear if they can’t support what’s already been released.

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And the k-mix is a decent audio interface.

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Cool! I’d be curious to whether it could work really without exporting to a daw, so wether for a rough sketch and mix it would be enough to compose a track, export and done. But maybe this isn’t really what it’s intended for?

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It really is.

Honestly my K-mix likely isnt going anywhere.

I also understand that the Bluebox might never be an interface.

I can see compatibility issues with ever-evolving OS and DAWs out there being a challenge, amongst other things.

It is probably too demanding for 1010’s small team.

Like the Blackbox, the Bluebox is probably best suited as a niche mixer/eq/recorder that does what it says it does, dont buy it for a hopeful feature that may never come.

Hopefully it does well what it is set out to do.

I do think it is. The Blackbox can do this already, albeit crude. So this one will most likely be good at just that.

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General sound quality, noise floor, latency, etc.
1010’s website shows no tech specs at all at this time.

Thanks for doing that :pray:t2:

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Yep, I’ll be watching that closely. For me, the main battle will be the philosophical question on whether a modern, digital mixer with synced multitrack recording and post-processing offers so much more to the workflow, that it’s worth going for that instead of a traditional, high end console? It’s not a vs. thing, it’s more a way to get an idea of where you’re really at in your workflow and what works best for you in your way to produce music.

I know that for myself, the Bluebox on paper is much more appropriate for the way I work. But the SSL SiX brings something entirely different to the table, and when does such a difference matter? And more importantly, does it matter to you?

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I’m curious how the bluebox handles fx. Are returns added to the mix or can you assign the returns to a channel.

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:+1:

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Interested in how it deals with ground noise, humming etc. So many unbalanced cables so close together…

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The Blackbox does okay with this, so I’m guessing the Bluebox will, too. But we’ll see :slight_smile: it’d be a bit of a miss if a mixer with so many inputs and outputs has a noise ratio that’s just too loud for comfort.

Yes, but there is the obvious physical difference that could possibly lead to noise buildup (i hope not):

Blackbox: 1 stereo input jack
Bluebox: 6 stereo input jacks

Looking fwd to the review!

I would imagine that if the source is clean, it won’t make much of a difference, but perhaps it’s more sensitive to anything that’s grimy in itself. Plug in six volcas, you might get a lot of noise. Plug in six Moogs, perhaps not.

But we’ll see :slight_smile: I found myself a Tempest now, I’ll be running all its outputs into the Bluebox and, as the kids used to say back then, pump up the volume. That one’s a noisy bastard, so we’ll see who’s left bleeding when I’m done.

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Not to derail but since you’re joining Le Club Tempest and using it to test the BlueBox, I recommend checking out Noir et Blanc Vie’s comments about the effect of pre / post filter settings at around the 59:40-minute mark in the following vid:

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Of course, the sources will define the sum.
An interesting worst use case would be having all inputs plugged in, in an electrically very noisy environment. Basically emulate a crowded DJ booth in an (empty :cry:) venue, where the Bluebox will be surrounded by PSUs, mobile phones, record players, etc. Input cables in a tangle etc.
I’m rooting for the Bluebox, it would be a fantastic live session tool.

PS. Exacerbate the worst use case with two of the inputs being microphones…

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Thanks. Yep, I’ve checked out all his posts on the Tempest. Very informative and entertaining. I’ve actually been in club Tempest for some time, it’s one of my on and off-instruments. Like, now I have one. Ah, it’s a mess, I’ll lose it. Then, missing it. Oh, there’s one at a solid price. I’ll get one again. And around and around we go.

Since 2014, in my case :slight_smile:

But around here, people haven’t caught up on the rising second hand value of the Tempest yet, so this one’s a downright investment, if one chooses to look at gear that way.

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:metal: