If it hasn’t been said yet: try the peak filter set to taste with high resonance and key tracking around 13. Additionally using the overdrive, around 30 helps some too. I mostly use the square or pulse wave. Only one oscialltor.
How about using neighbor oscs? This way you could use the first voice with filters to build your waveform just the way you’d like, and then use a second voice in neighbor osc mode to perform subtractive filtering. I know this is not ideal since you need two voices to pull this off, but if you have voices to spare, it might be worth trying?
Hopefully A4 mk2 will have a filter bypass switch, to enable a clean ‘uncoloured’ signal when desired, for both the internal oscillators and when processing external audio through the unit.
The Heat has a bypass switch. This is what the A4 needs as well
Thank you Open Mike and Sezare58. Shame on me, I should have read precisely that point (somewhere about 25).
Here is a test with stting you mentioned (F1 freq = 127, res = 25 / F2 LP2 freq = 127, res = 0)
Yes it’s what I wanted to do but… that’s what we should do after having a “normal” wave. Anyway those settings seems a little bit too wha wha for a “normal” and fat square sound.
There is something unnatural with that trick in A4. When resonance is high… there is a kind of resonance effect. You can listen to that when you play quickly 2 notes across let’s say 3 octaves. First play C6, and then C2, then once more C2. The first C2 has a sort of effect, an approximation… maybe the time for the filter to track the note and comeback to a low frequency. First C2 sounds weird, and then it’s ok.
Anyway it’s a nice way to get a solid bass sound. i prefer with lower Frq and res values.
I love that idea, and that’s a fantastic concept that make this instrument unique. But the same problem occurs every time one sound goes thru any filter. So, with first filter, one try to get a normal wave, and it is destroyed by second track filter… that time, it’s really impossible to figure what was original waveform.
And I was a little bit optimist when I thought one can rebuild original waveform with both filters because I always tried to mimic one only note. But when changing note, completely different settings are necessary (even with tracking set to 32… or without tracking for either of the 2 filter). Worst of all, when moving from one note to another one, we can hear what is the problem.
For example, in this picture, I tried to make best square wave.
Filter settings are: Flt1 Frq 127 res 25, Flt2 Frq 33 res
It looks different than original, but it’s possible to see a sort of analog square wave. Sonically, there is something weird. When changing note, the problem is evident : there is way too much quint under the fundamental (Harmonic 5 1/3). Certainly due to HiPass huge resonance. And the sound doesn’t stop quickly… it remains with that resonance. So those setting are really unusable.
have my A4 since yesterday, and I can confirm that the OSCs all have some “sawish” taste to them. Especially the triangle wave does not sound at all as I expected. I suspect that this is the real reason many people find the sound engine not to their taste - the basic waveforms are a bit off. Also, the whole sound is not clean at all - everything is a bit distorted
Coming from ultra clean VSTs, this is kind of a change of philosophy to me
Yes, but still - even at low levels, those waveforms look weird. And I don’t mean the Saw, those look not like Saws on most true analogs, but the pulse and square and triangle.