I am going through a process of setting up the basic tracks of my bands album for live performance.
Therefore I have a lot of stems that I put together with OctaChainer.
Now, I don´t play the stems from start to end but try to use the Octatracks synth functions for kind of live remix.
Example: I have a bass line that is 4-8 bars long and changes only soundwise over the track (filter, res, etc.).
Now I want to control the length of these stems with the envelope plocked and on one of them. I must be doing something wrong, because it will not stop after 16 steps on the hold parameter. Release is near zero.
It works on other samples and it stops them at the right point. I know that scenes overwrite plocks but there are no parameters in this actual pattern/scene interfering with the envelope.
I experimented (desperately) with the env modes, but analog should work, right.
One sample on beat one of the track, shall start and stop, no trigless trigs involved.
It starts but does not stop (well, it stops when the sample is at it´s end but not due through the env).
Any hint would be greatly appreciated. Thank´s in advance.
Hey there, have you downloaded the manual? It’s good to have around. Check out section 10.3 of the manual: Scenes
When moving the crossfader, locked scene parameters have priority over parameter locks.
This ensures smooth transitions between scene parameters without the sudden changes
that might be caused by parameter locks.
Sadly not. But thanks for trying to help.
I just want a sample to stop playing at a given point. I know how to do this and it worked in the past. So I must be doing something wrong.
I know about scenes/plocks and override.
This is not the case here. So I am searching for a different answer. My first try were the env modes, but I was pretty sure it was not that.
It did not change anything either.
Thanks anyway. I will investigate further an post if I find a solution.
Maybe you have Length switched on / adjusted for that track?
It’s not a feature I use much and do t have OT here but it definitely affects how hold and release work.
I do what you describe -with hold and a short release like you - but more recently I use a green plock (I know I should use the right term there but no time to access manual rn!) to bring the volume down to zero at a particular point using micro timing. If that’s too abrupt I slide to it from the step before
I got into doing it that way because I’m also doing the opposite - sometimes trigging a sample silently then bringing it up in volume at a particular point, which you can’t do with attack.
And why did I start doing that?! (In case it’s helpful) To recreate track muting ‘performances’ which the arranger can’t help with because those are ‘event’ mutes
It works now. I swear it did not yesterday. Whatever I tried did not stop the sample at the right point.
Now it does.
Sorry for being dumb.
Can this be an octatrack quirk? Some kind of seldom, random bug?
I am relatively new to the octatrack but I´m a long time DT, DN, A4 user and the Elektron workflow is quite common to me.
Thank you for all the hints you have given to me.
I keep this thread a note to reference when something like this would happen again.
So I have suggestions where to look at and maybe someone else is in a similar situation.
But while we´re at it. I do not realy understand the relation of plocks/scenes/lfos.
What is hierarchy? It follows a direction (scenes to lfos to plocks ?)
Is this valid on a per page basis?
I really RTFM believe me. I did this before I even bought the Octa.
I can not find anything about this. Same goes for the Octatrack notebook by SynthDawg (which is excellent BTW).
Thank you and let me tell you that all of you are very friendly and helpful people.
This is not so often in forums.
If you have an lfo, it will be applied whatever the parameter value is, even if it’s plocked, or scene locked.
Relative behavior, not absolute.
So I’m not sure if the term override is suiting this behavior.
Just for the record, I have overlooked that the release MUST be shortened to have any effect on stopong a sample when plocking the hold time. Long release means…well, long release.
So this was the error I made.
Besides that I had some scene errors.
Still, I have learned a LOT by having the chance to ask all this and get feedback on my questions.
Thanks a lot.