I think this is the core of why you’re getting so much push-back here. You’re dehumanising the people who make the tools/instruments that many of us here love to use/play.
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Dude you really don´t get me, but it´s fine. first of all there is no negativitiy. Second you can apreciate the creative process all day long and the vision of companys. I come from a product design background myself. And the fairytale of the designer who sits in his office and dreams and cooks the new hot shit for the waiting people is just not true. Sweden has a very strong background in design and in design theory and elektron will most likely use some kind of design process which involves prototyping -> user testing -> refining -> prototyping … And in the End they need to make money. They want to better their products to make money. Or do you really think that Elektron is the same Company of nerds they once were when they were making the Sid Station? I´m not complaining I just verbalising what would be great in future boxes. If you are fine with what you have, than ok use it and stop fan boying.
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I´m not dehumanising anyone I just don´t know anyone at Elektron. Not one person. Cenk and Ess are gone. If you know someone…
Also I don´t think anyone at Elektron is offended if they read what people imagine for future of actual boxes. They think “might do it” or “nope”…
Ahh ok, so you’re the fanboy (do you not know the ‘who smelt it dealt it’ saying??)… you’re hurt that you don’t know anyone at Elektron any more… fair enough, I get it now… maybe email them and ask for a personal contact there dude? Someone to make you feel as special as you know you are, you’ve spent money, you deserve it. 
You wrote “I don’t see them as individuals” about 6 messages up.
OK… perhaps I’m reading you through a language barrier. Maybe your throughts are softer and more understanding than the words as I am reading them. I’ve seen more messages than yours saying “Elektron should do X; why haven’t they fixed Y, yet” recently. I picked on you when I really wanted to shout at many people all at the same time. I sorry I picked on you.
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and I suppose he’s not the only one. That was the spirit of Elektron. Also a few guys hanging in the forums here.
But yeah … Elektron is now too big. Good ol days are gone.
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Hey, could we keep things a bit more civil? It’s just a disagrement
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So it’s like when the band gets big and you can no longer talk to them after the gig while they’re loading the van? Elektron are now Coldplay? Coldplay have feeling you know… 
Yeah, I know… sometimes just telling someone to ‘grow up’ is sufficient enough.
Just be nice from now on 
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Language Barrier might take a part. English at least is not my native language and I suppose there are always many things that come across differently then ment.
Of course I respect people and surley everyone at Elektron but as a whole its also a company which functions in capitalistic terms. Maybe that clears things up. 
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I could tell you were writing in a 2nd or 3rd language. I should have tried harder to imagine multiple interpretations because I am writing in my 1st (only) language. Sorry I did not.
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Elektron has definitely been busy and I cannot wait to see what they release next. I just got my Model Samples in to match up with my Model Cycles. Some might wonder why someone with a Digitakt and ARii would want a Model Samples. Well, for me it is the fun factor. I would recommend them to anyone wanting to try the Elektron system.
I think a change is attitude and expectations is helping with my enjoyment of the ARii. Forget what those YouTube providers say when they call it the best drum machine ever. It’s not. What it is, a machine that can add something to any project. Some people can do wonderful things with it stand alone. I cannot. Maybe it is my training, but I need polyphony. Lots of it for complex chords and intercut percussion. That’s the way I am and it will not change, so my ARii will be paired with my MC-707. I’ll be happier that way.
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My opinion : it’s a fun and mindy drum machine. I really appreciate my AR mk1 (sold to me by a member of this forum).
The sequencer is powerful
The instruments are what they are : originals, with great tweaking capability.
It can sound loud.
It has its own sound, personality.
Love it as i love the MD. They are great drum machines.
The Tr8s, is something with great sound, but not great sound shaping abilities as AR has. But Tr8s has the capability of writing another pattern while the first is playing. That is very interesting.
That’s the point. The difference with AR. In AR you can design the sound constantly and deeply. In Tr8s, it’s more a kind of deck. Very handy and intuitive to play, i would say in DJ’s way of playing decks.
But designing sounds easily while playing is not so intuitive and simple.
I think that it depends on what you want to do with your drum machine.
I use it to play standalone techno with over compressed sounds. I use 6 instruments maximum at the same time. So choking group does’nt annoyed me.
I think this drum machine has what i would call “du chien”. It rocks.
AR is perfectly adapted to savage bunker techno, IMHO.
The Tr8s, that i like very much, sound with clean sound even if pushing it.
That’s mater of taste and usage.
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chill a little
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Nice contributing… 
And while you’re trying to troll and stoke a bit, I stand by, and believe in, the quote you decided to bring back up… people acting super-offended by a lack of a feature they want and castigating the product/company/employees behind it is pretty lame, IMO.
Anyway, moving on…
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For those of you enjoying your Rytms, how do you personally work around the issue of not being able to recall/reload a specific pattern once you’ve edited it, then left that pattern for another, then returned to the edited pattern (while the sequencer is running)? This is impossible on the AR, but the Digis have a “reload from project” command which I love.
Assuming that you’ve saved your project:
Are you A) copying the pattern to another pattern slot before editing, B) Always using the pattern reload command before leaving an edited pattern, C) stopping the sequencer and reloading the project (ugh), or D) something else?
I find myself very hesitant to edit AR patterns live since the original pattern can be so easily “lost”. But I don’t struggle with this on the Digis because of that awesome “reload from project” command.
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I’ve gone through similar phases to what you describe here… I’ve got an MC707, a TR8S, and a Rytm Mk2.
My Rytm mk2 has spent the last 3-4 months off to the side and I use it mainly as a sound module (with Overbridge these days) in Ableton.
Earlier on today though, I moved it front and centre of my studio and worked on it for 2 hours on its own, and kind of rediscovered a lot of the workflow that I really like about it.
I had 2 new songs going in no time.
I love how you can imagine sounds you want to hear and just go after them on the Rytm, and how frkn amazing the sound design side it… it’s so inspiring creatively to work on solo, then expand upon that foundation.
I really dig the TR8S (and MC707) too, but they’re nowhere near the Rytm for sound design, and in my use they just have such a different vibe to the Rytm… I like both, just very different.
The Roland units are both really good as performative instruments that fit into specific genres with minimum fuss… I don’t think the Rytm does that, it doesn’t easily sound like a 909, 808, etc… but if I want that I’ll go the Roland route.
I think the Rytm/MC707 combo is really cool and a great combination of approaches/sonic possibilities… I might have a look at this myself over the weekend.
A combination of these for me… so once I have a base pattern I’m happy with, I’ll copy it and have it in 3 or 4 slots… then work out variations/changes, etc in the new patterns.
I usually have a number of different moves in mind with nearly every pattern that can’t be captured within the static pattern… performing/jamming, that 1, 2, 4 bar pattern can easily turn into a 128 bar performance… so I would say, D) RECORD what you’re playing.
I leave my Zoom h4n connected to my main mixer outs, and I record stuff all the time… if you catch something magical you can either use that later (as audio), or refer back to it so you can repeat the move.
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Cool name calling. Asking you to chill is far from trolling. You can look through my responses and see that I’m not a troll. I just don’t like it when people use abrasiveness as an argument style.
Back to the topic at hand: the Rytm is the dog’s bollocks.
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