Not really my experience. Looks like buying new is a terrible idea. Resale prices are OK, if you bought secondhand, but if you bought new, you’ve lost >33% just for buying it.
I don’t want to start the “gear as investment” thing again, but gear is an asset…you don’t expect something to be worth so much less as soon as you use it, which suggests that the box is overpriced.
Yeah most of my releases are 20-24 tracks so I couldn’t do it all with 1 or 2 RYTMS.
2 RYTMS is pretty rad though I bet! Kind of goes with my idea that elektrons plan was for folks to pair up multiple devices.
Right, gear is not an investment but like I said, I bought a used one in mint and made all my money back after a year. The few used ones I see on reverb are listed at $1300, which is more than I paid.
I’ve only had the Rytm (mk1) for a few weeks now, but I’ve used tons of other analog drum synths - Vermona, MFB, Eurorack, etc - and owned real vintage machines like CR78, DR55, TR77, and way more. The Rytm is seriously flexible and has potent sweet spots.
I was able to nail many sounds from my vintage machines (which sadly I had to sell) just by using the analog machines, and love that I could load up a sample to compare against. This taught me where the sweet spots were relative to something I already know and love. Kind of like how a mix engineer uses a known reference track. WIth the exception of the metal beat (have a sample for that, if I need it), I got VERY close to the CR78 sounds.
I just started using the BDPL and DVCO machines for melodic lines, and already saved some keeper sounds.
Yeah, probably a UK/US market thing. Maybe market here is not as good.
New Gear is similar to new cars: you lose the value of the VAT when you sell second hand. Or at least I expect to when I sell my little used new gear. Take the VAT off a new Rytm and you are looking at £999, then you’ve got the fact that it’s still a used machine so a bit more still may be expected. Unless they are sold out or waiting list, Pulsar 23 type gear…. Then charge whatever you want.
Saying that, I’m tempted by your Rytm but I’ve got an SP16 and Blackbox to sell first.
I went for that one! And so this thread is the opposite of me.
Firstly I love the analog engines and get a lot of variance from them.
The filter and LFO are amazing.
I find everything really effective and precise. I check out literally every step of a knob and there’s something there.
I play live and my goal is to play music, not to be a builder nerd or technical wizard. I’m interested in the bit between speaker and ear and filling that energetic, joy inducing techno.
So when I came to set up the second spot in my live rig with a pro tool (sorry, but the Model:Cycles isn’t) I had in the back of mind that Rytm was the one, but I really struggled with that. Reason prevailed though. The alternatives (Tempest, Jomox) just aren’t as good, then, the clincher, was the consistency because now levels etc. are controlled in the same way, samples handled in the same way, and the playing interface is the same.
So I don’t need to be that wizard that can make two things sound equal volume or play two different interfaces seamlessly, but I can concentrate on the noise I’m making.
One’s black and one’s grey though. and the lights are different colours, and that’s made the consistency thing a more of a task to get used to lol
IMHO, the Rytm is not a preset machine, the default sounds are weak but underlying that with some sound design manipulations they begin to morph and it is a very powerful machine. It takes time and effort like the OT and A4 to learn and get the best out of it. most drum machines have choke settings, thats the way they are design. limitation often force creativity. I own an MPC One and its very fast to get some beats going but once they are then its tough to perform with them and be creative, the sequencer is pretty fixed, unlike the Elektron boxes.
Similar experience here in the Netherlands. I see about 6-7 Rytms up for sale locally, and prices have started dipping below 1000 euros. Think it’s also just the time of year, with black friday and christmas people need some quick cash.
Still, that’s a 40% pricedrop from the new prices right now.
Yup! There’s one on MArktplaats for 1000 EUR and it appeared after I got one myself.
There’s another one listed now at 990. And both ads have been listed for over a week and are still up. Tough crowd.
yeah insane. I really enjoy mine a lot. Digitakt has been stored for now, which is the main downside.
Probably looking to integrate both at one point, but still hoping for some of the digitakt features to come to Rytm so I dont need both.
all sounds played live, trigger out from the Rytm to the AS-1, gates the sequencer
i love the AR.
When loading the ARII with a set of samples, it gives an immediate inspiring vibe. Dark punchy sound, nice workflow, even when not using the analog voices. When loading up the same set of samples in, let’s say, Logic / Battery, it is certainly not the same vibe, both sound wise, feel of the sequences and workflow. You can probably get it just as vibey in your DAW if you process it the right way, but to me that feels like work and by the time I get it right (if I get it right at all) I’ll be bored with whatever I’m working on. ARII is key for an enjoyable workflow for me. YMMV off course.
Yep I bought it for 900 … insane low price.
Nice! Lekker gewerkt! Very good price indeed.
I saw the exact same vid! SO good
It’s the only machine I own, that I can take somewhere, prepare nothing, open up an empty project and have a banger going <5 min. It’s fricking amazing.
I had a rytm mk2, didn’t gel with it and i ended up selling it. Some days ago I found a good deal for a rytm mk1 and I don’t know what happened but I’m having a blast, I fell in love with this thing.
The smaller form factor and the screen on the center helps me focus on what I’m doing…this may sound stupid but to me it makes a huge difference