I am currently preparing my first dawless live set. Since I’ve spent the pat week with my octatrack setting everything up I am now on my rytm.
For my set I would like to have 1 kit of drums for every song in my set.
So let’s say on A1 I want a 808 kit and on A2 a 909 kit.
how do I approach this? I’ve tried it with p locks and this works but if I am using p locks I can’t jam very quickly since I have to copy and paste all my trigs all the time if I don’t want my parameters to change.
I already know that you can save the settings for each pad as a “sound” and change them within one project. But this leads me to another problem. Is there a way to change the sound of all 12 pads (so ie from 909 to 808) with one click? If I am playing live and transitioning from one song to another I don’t want to waste time selecting every pad and changing the sound (I am transitioning with the octatrack crossfade loop)
Hope you can help me!
All the best,
On the RYTM, the kits change with the patterns. This is, and please correct me if I am wrong, I would love to be wrong, different from the Octatrack.
My current set up is much the same. I am using the OT to carry out program changes.
Setting that aside for a second, I recommend you having a fiddle around with the RYTM to understand it’s architecture. If you chose pattern 1, there is a kit assigned to it. Then chose pattern 2, this time assign a different kit. Now jam with pattern 1 and when you are ready select pattern 2 and you will find a smile upon your face as pattern 1’s 808 kit changes to pattern 2’s 909 kit.
Once you understand this then you can bring in the OT for program changes. Make sure the RYTM will listen out for program changes and the OT is sending them. Then by pressing the pattern you want to play on the OT the RYTM will automatically follow suit and play the same pattern on its sequencer.
Let me know how you get on
Sorry, if you don’t mind me asking but what are you using the OT for that isn’t covered by the RYTM?
Well actually I’ve tried it but that doesn’t seem to work?
Loaded up 909 + 808 kits to the project
Made 4/4 pattern with 909 sounds on A1 - > saved the kit as “909”
Made electro pattern with 808 kit on A2 - > saved the kit as “808”
If I change now from A1 to A2 I hear the electro pattern but with a 909 kit.
What am I doing wrong?
You should memorize the data structure: The settings on a Track make up a Sound, the Sounds on Tracks make up a Kit (whether you save the individual Sounds or not), Kit assignment is stored within a Pattern. So if Pattern A1 and A2 are both using Kit 01 for example, you will have different sequences using the same Sounds.
Kits are something you just have to keep organised. It can be a lot of work unless you think ahead.
On pattern A1, save a kit called ‘A01 - 808’ in Kit slot 01.
Change to Pattern A2. Don’t do anything else before this.
While in Pattern A2 save a kit called ‘A02 - 909’ to Kit slot 02.
Do this for as many patterns and kits as you think you want to start with. There are some sysex templates that already have each pattern and kit populated - floating around Elektronauts if you find it tedious.
Now make changes to the sounds in Pattern A2.
SAVE THE KIT. The short cut is ‘yes’ + ‘kit’. If you don’t save your pattern now, you’re going to lose all the work you’ve done. This is a feature, more on that later.
Change to Pattern A1. Change your sounds.
-SAVE THE KIT.
Flip between pattern A1 and A2, and you’ll hear the kit change.
What happened was you made a kit on A1, changed to A2 and created your new kit THEN changed the sounds, and went back to A1 without SAVING YOUR KIT.
It’s very easy to do if you don’t get in the habit or SAVING YOUR KIT. It doesn’t auto save. The reason is that the Rytm is setup as a performance instrument. So you can hit a pattern, mess with anything you want while playing live, then return to the pattern and have it reset to its original state.
So once again - SAVE YOUR KIT anytime you make a change. Just hit that shortcut.
Ok, part 2 of my TED talk now. Sorry for the short delay.
So, SAVE YOUR KIT right? Once you’ve got that hammered into you muscle memory, you can get a bit more advanced.
Back in the good old Monomachine days if you looked sideways for 2 seconds that fucker would forget your kit settings.
But the beautiful thing about the Rytm is that it will actually remember your changes. Even though I said it doesn’t autosave, which is true, it won’t forget your tweaks. But you need to understand what its remembering and why.
Say we used kit ‘A1 - 808’ on patterns A1, A2, A3. Then we use kit ‘A4 - 909’ on pattern A4. If you start running pattern A1, then bring up the filter on a high-hat say, then switch to pattern A2, it will keep going with those same settings. Any changes to the sounds you make will be retained as you flip back and forth between the patterns. So you can create a build up across multiple patterns which is super cool.
The place people come unstuck is when you create a new pattern. So say we’ve been mucking around with A1 and are happy with that. Then we switch to pattern A5 and start making a new kit. But you forget to save and switch back to A1…to find that all the sound settings have changed. Bugger.
It’s because a new pattern uses the last kit you were on as default. So what’s actually happening in the above is that you’re temporarily changing all the sounds on kit A1. It’s easy to get the original kit back by using ‘Reload Kit’ on pattern A1 (this reloads the last saved kit). A better habit to get into is:
switch to new pattern (A5 for example).
Save a new kit called “A5 - kit” in kit slot 5.
Create your kit.
Save the kit.
This way the A1 kit won’t suddenly sound like the A5 kit, and you won’t get them mixed up.