Arranger & Transition Trick

Elektron Gear Octatrack
#1

I’m putting together a live set on the Octatrack Mk1 (with some other bits). I think I have it worked out in theory, please check my logic:

  • I can create 1 arrangement per ‘song’

  • I can chain those arrangements together

  • As long as I choose the correct crossfader scenes on the first & last line of the arrangement, I can use the transition trick

I really want to use the arranger so I can mute and un-mute tracks on Rytm and mess with modular and really enjoy the experience. Last live thing I did I didn’t enjoy too much as I had too much to do …

#2

You can arrange all your patterns from various banks into one big arrangement

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#3

Imho it’s easier to play different songs in one arrangement, if the order doesn’t change. Btw you can also play a different row manually with arrows.

You can write REMarks to name songs, put some halt rows…

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#4

yes that works. I use it like that too

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#5

IIRC arrangement chain is not convenient (you can select only next one).

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#6

How many lines can I use in an arrangement? I currently have 1 song programmed in the arranger at 32 lines (this was for a recording so might not be needed…

#7

256 iirc

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#8

The chain tool has 8 slots, would it not work down the arrangements sequentially?
It’s a deep house set so I don’t want stops, a continuous blend is what I’m after, but I’ve already started using REM: Transition Time etc.

#9

256/32 = 8 songs = perfect!!
Thanks :slight_smile:

#10

I was planning on using this in the future. Aside from the song limit, are there other reasons to avoid it?

I’m currently building my live set from stems and planned to do as Native_Layer described

#11

You can save rows using Repeat and Length if you use the same pattern several times.

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#12

I’d make a test with 4 simple arrangements (1 pattern). IIRC you can select the next arrangement to chain, that’s all. Can’t be automated for several arrangements. Checked and confirmed.

@Bloop compare it to a song change in the same arrangement. Just select next song row (named with REM), press enter. Before the end of a song, you can create a loop, or an Halt.

Beware when you reach the end of arrangement, you have to press stop before playing it again.

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#13

Thanks I’ll experiment

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#14

If I remember right, you can also set the active A and B Scenes for patterns, in the Arranger… which might save a bit of brain work during the performance. I don’t know if you can change them after the Arranger sets them, however.

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#15

Yep, I thought that would be really useful to set the transition scenes (with some reminder lines to tell me to activate a loop and to make the transition). I can set the other scenes (in the arranger) for various other fx at different points in the song.

#16

I use one arranger for several songs (I actually have 9 in my arranger now). The only disadvantage appears if you want to change the order of the songs, but I dont mind cause my arranger is synced with my daw, so the position in my arranger changes when I change the position in my daw sequencer, which follows the order I want.

And yes, you can change scenes once the arrangement sets them, I do It a lot in my set.

I dont know how chaining arrangements works, but It’s not an option for me, as I have more than eight songs

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#17

Possible with arrows + yes, it switches to chosen row at the end of current row.
And imho it has an advantage compared to arrangement’s CHAIN, which cue next arrangement at the end of current arrangement.

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