Aren’t those samples copyrighted?
well they’re apparently using the 909 samples since that’s being developed…
We’re not seeing a Behringer 909, though^^
They could try to make their own samples and use them to get around copyright issues.
Maybe that’s what’s taking the 909 clone so long?
But it’s true that all those samples are copyrighted, isn’t it?
They will probably reference that TR-8 Roland video where the Roland technician sampled his own cymbals to the 909 eproms, and track down the same cymbals and recreate them maybe.
I don’t know copyright law so I can’t say. I’d assume they at least were protected in some way. I’m sure big B got their lawyers on the case tho…
they are indeed making a 909 (the RD-9), it’s just been announced recently that it’s delayed.
@darenager I was just thinking of that video. I remember they showed the crash but I’m not sure on the hats and ride. also IIRC, it was actually a pretty cheap cymbal!
regardless, tracking down the original sources would be very difficult, kind of ridiculous, and I’m guessing it likely wouldn’t sound very much like the originals in the end. especially when going to 707/727, as they’re all samples. might as well use samples at that point (the users, I mean).
I suppose another option would be to allow the user to upload their own samples, but that might take a bit of extra work.
Yeah, I know. Was just a guess though, that it’s due to the samples beeing copyrighted (I think I’ve read somewhere that such samples are copyrighted…hmm… 
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I heard people were complaining so much about bugs in the RD-8 (plus the issues with sync outs and phase inverted master output) that behri decided to halt the RD-9 and fix what was done wrong with the RD-8 before releasing. Hence the delay in bringing to market.
Nobody in legal history has copyrighted a drum hit so it’s safe to say development delays (and the reasons for not cloning a 707) aren’t related to legal use of samples.
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I’m in the market for a drum machine.
I’m kinda always in the market for drum machines 
I’d like to encourage this trend(?) to actually finish products before selling them. Oh hai MFB 
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RD-6 GAS deflated.
Partly by my MS getting the job done
Partly by my interest in MC and it’s metallic machines.
But mostly by Uli.
It’s a shame too. But samples should get-r-done
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Can the metallic machine in the M:C really compete with TR-606 Hi hats?
I haven’t really heard a good demo of the metallic machine on the M:C… but it did have that sound from the teasers and soundcloud uploads.
Only the Acidlab Drumatix can compete with TR-606 hats.
The M:C, like Rytm’s metallic machines, offer a similar flavor, though.
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Yes, I was interested in the Acidlab Drumatix a while back… considered getting one, but then settled on a Rytm MK2 for its functionality.
However, I did not like the hi hats on the Rytm that much. And hi hats are key elements in my jams; so maybe the M:C isn’t for me… although the few demos I heard had me interested.
May check it out one day at Perfect Circuit just to confirm the M:C’s sizzle’ability.
I’m heavily “GASed” on the Behringer RD-6 btw.
Thanks for the reply!
I know nobody asked, but I made this MIDI track specifically for the Behringer RD-6.
However, I ended up using it for the Korg Volca Beats because I finally got it to power up.
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No sign of this on Thomann etc. yet.
With ‘ the virus’ etc I wouldn’t be surprised if it came out around June 6th
The TipTop 909 euro modules use the same samples from the 909 so I don’t think there is a copyright issue.
I think the rytm’s metallic machines get closer to 606 hats… The m:c doesn’t give enough modulation for the cymbal to animate in a Rolandish way, it has a staticy FM cymbal feel to it. and the single LFO isn’t enough to get it bouncing with that chrome plated suck and pump
But aside from that, the metallic machine is dope, and you can coax many sounds from it. I especially like how it sounds with the GATE on, you can cut the tail nicely with short decay values for cool “techno hats” 
Kinda like that old hardwax techno trick where they cut off the 909 open hihat sample so you don’t hear the tail of the sample, making it sound more urgent.
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