Can Elektron please start selling MachineDrums again?

You literally did.

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I find it funny syntakt is being compared to the MD when the MD is miles above the syntakt sound design wise. Actually sound design wise I am not sure Elektron ever done something superior than MnM and MD.

The only people comparing it are the ones banging on about how much better the MD is into their Kleenex.

Other people are talking about Syntakt in the context of the their own experiences and workflows like grown ups.

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Also on technical specifications= features:
There is a difference the 2 terms are not interchangeable

In essence features are great elements a product can do from user end perspective, the specifications describe product from a technical point of view- specifications are technical, could be tangible but could not be testable.

Ok

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:rofl:

as usual, fight to the knife about nothing

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Silver Supremacy !
A bit scary…

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At least 17 perxels (international standard unit for superior sound design and kleenex dispensers) better than the other Elektron boxes.

I’d argue it depends on what type of sounds you’re going for. Octatrack can do some serious sample mangling and certain types of sounds rely on resampling the shit out. DVCO can deliver some great, hefty analog sounds and analog fm has a distinct tone in general.
There’s quite some potential for analog fm in the A4/AK, Rytm I’d assume Syntakt as well…

Similar things can be said about any Elektron machine, they all excel at certain sounds and not so much in others.

Then there’s things like workflow, features etc. personal preferences…

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I would love to have a MDmkIII with the new encoders and OLED screen, and nothing else changed. Had encoders go bad on OTmkI and A4mkI, and swore off ever touching an expensive device using those. Very happy with OTmkII in that regard.

They use endless potentiometers (so they won’t suffer from wear and tear as encoders do), but you can replace the encoders or have them replaced.

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The digi boxes and the syntakt just dont offer the same flexibility as the MnM/MD.

I agree the Octatrack is very impressive but as far as I know it is the same generation of products as the MnM/MD. The newer generation just does not come close to the older one.

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And the funniest thing is, that my innocent comment was about Syntakt vs LXR, and not MD :wink:

But yes, I’d love to see either more MD stuff in future ST updates and would love to see an MD MK3 (in other words, an affordable MD with warranty).

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Not really, the MD and MnM came out in 2001/03, whereas the OT came out in 2010, a couple of years before the A4 and then the AR a couple after that. In fact, the OT is closer in generational terms to the Digitakt than the MD.

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I have a Machinedrum UW, but the only way I’d say it was objectively “better” than the Syntakt is the individual outs and sampling/re-sampling capabilities. Everything else is a matter of preference. MD is more flexible but that might be a minus for someone who wants something more streamlined. The sound quality is totally subjective. The assignable individual outs (and inputs) are a huge plus for the MD, but then again, so is Overbridge and all of the new sequencing tricks on the Syntakt.

There is no perfect drum machine; use what you’ve got.

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The main thing that makes me wish I had a Machinedrum is the way they implemented Control All. Having a dedicated machine to control everything sounds far more fun than the manual Control All on the Digis. I think the only way I’ve approximated it is on the OT with MIDI loopback, but it’s still not the same.

I would be stoked if they added a Control All machine to the Syntakt. In fact, I think I would buy one for that feature alone.

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On the hardware side, the OT share lots more with the MD/MnM than with the newer Rythm/A4.
Just look at the PCB.

You have always this coldfire Motorola CPU for the core to boot the system and bring the OS up and running.
But the DSP5630 for MD/MnM/OT and the Spartan and analog chip for the A4/Rythm.
And PCB layout are quite different, could be completely another team which made it.

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I’d say OT is between 2 generations. Its OS was closer to Silvers, (notes starts from C-1 as on Silvers for instance), but it evolved with some of new generation features.

Aesthetically, it is part of a unique OT / A4 / AR trinity…

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The new generation have ADSR envelopes on filter and amp. Isn’t it basic synthesis features MD doesn’t have ?
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You do know the Machinedrum doesn’t have a dedicated attack parameter….? :upside_down_face:

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Thanks, this is exactly what I would have guessed, it actually makes so much sense.

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