haha fair point
Anyway I love this thing, I always said my dream machine would be a Nord Drum 2 with an Elektron sequencer - so this is as close as it gets for me at the moment. Iām enjoying it a lot and Iām happy with what Iām getting out of it, so worth it!
My wish, if they are adding machines, is that they take inspiration from Nord Drum voices.
More of that twangy, synthetic, clup and clik, other worldly near acoustic modelling style if thatās a way of describing it.
Thatās probably the resonant synthesis Iād guess? Mutable Instruments Rings style.
If implemented on Syntakt you could have the ability to use another track as the excitor
No, you can use different machines, as long as you use Digital type Soundlocks for tracks 1-8, Analog Drum type for tracks 9-11, Analog Cymbal like for track 12. I guess you can use Impulse / Noise types for tracks 9-12.
Are there any benefits of not having kits that we, the complainers, are not seeing?
Possibly. From the top of my head: Flexibility. Different patterns of a chain of patterns can have slight variable sounds or even completely different sounds for a break for example without having to resort to using multiple kits for one song or having to use sound locks for that. Easier to copy a pattern from one project to another. Easier to copy patterns in general. Less risk of destroying a kit because one forgot to switch kits for a new pattern.
On A4 kits are an annoyance for me because itās another layer I need to keep track of so I end up using 1 kit per pattern as if kits were not a thing at all. (I mostly use 1 pattern per song). So it really depends ones workflow if kits are useful or not
You can get around the no-kits limitation by saving the sequence data to the project (pattern menu āsave to projectā. Then copying the pattern containing the changed ākitā to the other patterns of the song and then reloading the sequence data on those (pattern menu āreload from projectā.
It also gives the opportunity to mess with trigs and sound and reload everything in a blink.
Okay Nauts, Iām on the GAS ledge. Anyone wanna talk me down?
Like many on this (and other forums) I am attracted to the idea of a small and efficient setup. How much pain would I be in if I sold an A4 mki and a DN to fund a ST (to pair with my DT)?
What appeals to me about the ST includes: analog and digital in one box, that master envelope/dist/filter (especially that it is all routable and p-lockable), the sound (bass heavy but still lots of clarity).
My hesitations include: getting rid of two amazing and capable boxes for the new kid on the block, not enough depth of synthesis on the ST, the never ending GAS wheel of pleasure and pain.
I know no one can definitively answer this for me but any thoughts? Any gotchas or disappointments on the ST? Thanks to anyone who chimes in!
Youāre going to lose a ridiculous amount of sonic territory by selling an A4 and Digitone for a Syntakt.
This is the type of sobering smack that I need. Keep āem comingā¦
Edit: Mr. Ivar Tryti (one of my Elektron heroes), I see that you hearted the above post. I have also seen you, Dataline, Substan, Dave Mech, and others crush it solo on the ST. Would you be willing to weigh in on the ST experience compared to other Elektron offerings, the A4 and DN specifically? Many thanks!
Syntakt is in no way a valid substitute of any of those devicesā¦it will complement them immensely but I donāt think youāll be happy with the synth engines it has compared to the power of an AF and a Digitone.
Trading those for ST doesnāt make much sense tbh. If I had to choose between an A4+DN or an ST the choice would definitely be the former. Because A4 and DN together offer infinitely more depth and sound design potential.
If you want something more straight forward and quick to lay down ideas with and donāt care that much about the depth a4 and DN offer (maybe because of a lack of time?), Then I guess ST is a viable trade.
There might be some benefits but we, the complainers still need kits!
Yes, time is a major factor (father and teacher here) but ya know what, I think Iām cured.
Thanks Dave Mech, youāre another one of my Elektron heroes!
I donāt know if you have other Stereo Synths/Devices but with this combo (ST, DT) you will have 20 Mono Tracks. You will lose Stereo Tracks and will rely on Stereo FXs. Of course, if that matters to youā¦But anyways, personally, I wouldnāt consider the swap.
Hmm, does the STās unison (in chord mode) not pan spread? Bummer. Iām sure there are workarounds (fast LFOs and what not) but this is good to know. Thanks for the warning!
Thanks to the Nauts community for weighing in. All my gear is packed because we recently moved into a new place but now Iām going to unpack it and commit to what I have. You all are the best!
Played with my ST last night after about a month hiatus. Layering the hats definitely helps give it some techno life. Fun box
Must say that i think this is elektrons best box yet. I dont need an other elektron box, maybe a sampling one but i got other sampling stuff. Great box, so much power and diversity IMO.