IOS synths & digitakt

Hi,

I’d like to sequence my synth apps with my digitakt. I already have a camera kit to connect both.

Any user with the same config here would be really helpful. :slight_smile:

I’m trying to do it with AUM but it’s a failure at the moment.

Thx.

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I thought AUM was just a mixer?

Don’t you have to configure each app individually? It’s worked that way with Gadget at least(from the Little I’ve played around with)

AUM has some MIDI routing capability but until he publishes more details than “it’s a failure” he won’t be able to get help.

get the Midiflow midi router app, then you can select the channels that go to each IOS synth, also does Midi clock and even transpositions/mappings etc

https://www.midiflow.com/

invaluable tool for IOS midi

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The simplest way is to get Alesis I/O midi hub and a powered USB hub.

Connect midi out from DT to midi hub in and viva versa. 5DIN cables

Audio from hub to Digitakt input to hear/monitor (or to a mixer)

USB hub connects to CCK cable to iPad. You can connect keyboard to hub.

It’s a simple setup that works , now you only have to load apps in AUM and give each a midi channel

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i had this going tonight.

digitakt into aum
aum configured
ch1 - zeeon
ch2 - troublemaker
ch3 - another synth…

the magic thing to learn in aum is the midi control settings on each channel.
each digitakt track had similar cc’s setup on each track for volume and effect send A/B in aum
so in addition to any other synth parameter i could also turn up/down the effect send on each AUM channel.
i had 2 on each going to mix bus A (delay) and B (reverb) , each one set to post fader.

synth wise
all synths went to bus G
fx to bus A / B and those went through to G also.

aum is very powerful , much more than a mixer … it’ll host fx , sequencers etc.

and to finish off i had this setup routed , its quite like a modular.

bassline was trigging the 303
bassline was being transposed by an arp running slowly (it also keeps things in key).
arp was modulated by an lfo to alter the main pitch , it could also tweak the subdivision so this could change over time.

basically , instead weird Plaid like arp’s .
while this was going on i had lfo’s runnning filter/cutoff on the 303
and i had them switching on / off looping , reverse reverb , high and low filter (they used the same LFO but aum was inverting the values ).

that’ll do.
the main issue i had though , was aum had to be midi source for clock sync going out to digitakt via usb, and there’s a little bit of latency
and i found that when changing pattern on digitakt it would resend the cc values out , so the fx send changed

i had ipad audio running through digitakt audio ins.

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Sounds interesting. :smiley:

How do you have the 2 connected? I mean what is “in between” DT and iPad?

Camera connection kit and USB lead.
Directly into aum as a device , it shows up as digitakt in iOS.

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Doesn’t that give you midi connection only?
How do you get the audio into DT? From headphones?

I use direct DT-USB<>iPad only for sending midi, like SPA or other Arps.

Audio was just headphone out into digitakt , stereo to left/right lead with monitoring turn on in digitakt.

I’m not processing any digitakt audio via iPad , .

Ok, thanks for clarifying, was worried there are some techniques or settings I had no idea about…

Hi
I use MIDI LINK sync app to convert midi to LINK. It work well

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I don’t, I find it unreliable, CPU stealing and PITA to set it up.

I prefer to use apps that have decent midi, that work with external gear and in case of a sequencer can be synced.

The rest I deleted and simply don’t bother buying any new apps that lack these features.

Please excuse my ignorance but I am hoping for some clarification.

I have a 'takt and an iPad. If I buy AUM (or perhaps midiflow?) I can connect the devices and would be able to sequence some synth apps with the help of a CCK.

But, if I want to, say, send some of my digitakt output through some iOS effects, I would only be able to do this with the help of a midi hub as suggested by @soundklinik? This would not be possible with some other app or such? I have read that the iPad can be a midi host but I am a total noob.

I’m just trying to sort out what I actually need before I start spending money on apps and or a midi hub or whatever.

Thanks,

Output - sound - is not MIDI. You would need to an audio interface to convert it.

@eat.paste, There are lots of different setups. I have a simple, inexpensive setup.

iPad has poor connectivity, so you need a CCK or camera kit cable, get the one where you can charge at the same time (genuine Apple.)

You need a good USB hub, I prefer powered, because it can power other gear.

Last you need a sound card. I have ZOOM U24 (MIDI/USB) that’s great and is very cheap from gear4music.

I added a USB/midi hub from Alesis that works really well and connects everything together. You can run a laptop as well with this setup.
I use AUM only, it seems to work well. Modstep is great too, kind of Ableton for iPad. You can chain effects in both as well.
I’m sure others will chime in.

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I have the Zoom U24 as well and CCK. It has been great.
AUM is also great for being able to design your own combo of synths. AUM seems to be the most reliable of the bunch for this. I have BeatMaker3 as well, and while that’s like a fully featured Ableton for iPad, it is quite a bit more complicated that AUM.

I also like iPad apps that provide an All-In-One approach so you don’t need to rely on a combination of 20 different AUv3’s to play. Some that fit this bill are Korg iM1, Yonak Kaspar, Korg Gadget (just use for the synths = sequence via Digitakt), GrooveRider, etc. Also have Blofeld for hardware only approach (and a bunch of other synths…but that’s not this topic)

It seems AUv3’s have been much more reliable in the past few months as bug fixes have come in.

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Zoom U24 here too :slight_smile:

I would want to have my DT to trigger and control synths in AUM (or Auria Pro?).
How could i “move on” to different patterns with other synths or presets?
Thanks!

I know. This is a big question I have too. I’ve at least partially solved this, but also why hardware is appealing for this type of thing…so much clearer.

But here is one option… IF you have at least a little time between the switch you can have Saved multiple batches of any combos of synths in AUM, then go to FILES and select the next set of synths and load that set. It reloads all the set up work for you on the load and you can have complicated setups at your fingertips.

If you want to have 8 synths in 8 channels in AUM and do program changes on each of them, which would probably be faster than the LOAD of whole new setups and could be handled by PCs from the Digitakt, this is something I am not sure about yet.

(I think each AUv3 may have its own way of handling PC messages ??)

Anyone with AUM experience on this?