From what I have gathered from the YouTube demos it can be used as a live looper, so you could set up 8 tracks for live looping with 8 different clips on each plus all the effects etc, don’t even have to use the sound engine if you don’t want to, then save that as a project I suppose, it looks like basic editing of the loops, time stretching etc is available
I think I will pass these two. The 101 kinda appeals to me, but that UI looks like a nightmare for sound designing 4 layer stack sounds. Roland should have made a third form factor, somewhere between the 101 and the 707 would be ideal for me.
I think its a pity that ACB models were left out for these. Guess they didnt want to risk overlap with the TR8S…
I already own OT, MPC live and force so guess I wont be missing much
Follow me here. Thinking about it, and playing with Maschine yesterday. These feel like hardware boxes of the Maschine Jam…
I don’t know It doesn’t matter. They’re probably super fun to play with.
But that 707 $999 price tag. Ouch. You can do a lot, for a lot longer spending $1k bucks on something else
I see a video where they explaining on Roland Jupiter Xm that ACB is very CPU intensive… They simply can’t give power on the 707 within ACB so they drop it with a new thing called the A-core (if I heard well)
So without ACB they can give for that price all they’ve put inside
(but maybe that’s not for overlapping their TR8S)
me too.
the drums are only samples.
The synth engine is from the roland keytar?? said the guy in the sonic state video. whatever that sounds like?
maybe it‘s great don’t know
these look interesting but gonna wait for user reviews and if Roland do any firmware updates before picking up an MC101.
I’m not sure features is what’s lacking in this segment. More tracks, voices and stuff won’t necessarily resolve an aching desire to make great tracks within one box.
I’d say workflow changers are what’s interesting. The Octatrack, the Circuit, and I’d say the Blackbox, to mention a few - those who think outside the box they’re confined to reside in.
I rather have MS Sample than the MC 101. It’s cheaper and I’ll probably get better music out of it.
Same for me I had it for 3 months then sold it design is ugly to me at least they got rid of those plastic buttons
ACB definitely requires a lot of processing power. The plugin versions attest to that. To achieve sufficient polyphony for a groovebox with ACB synths and drums would be prohibitively expensive and would require a large number of the special ACB chips they use.
So I wouldn’t have expected ACB in these, but the engine they are using doesn’t sound great to me - I think David Åhlund said it was related to the recent keytar thing they released.
wish they kept the form factor
keytar : the name make sense now… it’s the form factor not the name of the product in fact…
Okay, nice! I should’ve done it like you mentioned. (and be more careful about lending out gear)
The synth engine in the AX-Edge is supposedly pretty good according to the reviews I’ve seen when that thing came out, and from me playing one in store. As much fun as it was, I ended up not getting one because they’re not exactly cheap, because I already own too many synths, and because it didn’t seem easy to edit with its tiny display.
They’re very playable, FWIW. Great keyboard and well-designed controls in the neck.
Roland also seems to have done a decent job making editing more approachable using the bigger screen on the 707.
Idk. Not trying to be too negative but…Watched all the available yt vids. OT remains in a class of its own. No contest. Akia force also. I own a TB3. Awesome 32 step 303-type sequencer for all my gear. Which is awesome but it feels flimsy. I’ve also played Roland’s JDXI and seen the how to vids with their guys on the JDXA flagship. The menu system is multi levels deep which pretty much kills spontaneous workflow. The keyboard I played seemed …inexpensive (?!)
The scatter effects are over the top, which is to say way too much. The menu system on this machine is why I got away from menu based stuff in the first place. Is it just me, or do the drums and other sounds seem weak/not punchy? Their modular stuff seems awesome though.
Having a deep audio engine with amazing features is great, until you have to dive deep into the abyss to reach the parameters that make the audio engine so great. Roland has such a rich heritage! Please bring back the joy that your older machines provided.
Man, i wished for an Octatrack with faders, this MC 707 is really close, but then only 8 minutes sample per project? Honestly i compare it to akai MPC Live, at the same price point, it has a lot more to offer imho. MPC Live still has no streaming from SSD as far as i know, which is a sad thing, also MIDI timing isnt that great from the responses seen.
I dont know, is it so hard to program a midi offset? (Wait 4 beats, sync, then start playback?)
For now, Octatrack is still unbeatable in my opinion. (And that after introduction in 2011?) What a champion he is.
Would love a re-issue of the SP-808! Still have mine since new in 1998. Although those ZIP disks are cheap when found
It’s weird to see some complaint about the fact that it’s sample based. The digitakt is sample based too and sounds amazing. And i’m pretty sure the inner effects inside the MC-707 can help beef up any sample that goes through it.
Also, personnally I use hardware for songwriting and not for live set, since I never got further than the 5minute mark of content per project I got over that idea, so I don’t see the project size limitation as one anymore, but that’s probably just me.