MC 707 / 101 : New Roland Grooveboxes

I thought about this as well. A lot of people make that comparison, but I think they are really different. M:S is a sample player and has no built in sounds. The MC-101 has. Other then that its the sequencer of the M:S that stands out. The MC has 16 drumsounds on one track and 16 samples on another track, the M:S only has 6 sampleslots and is there already sample locking with the M:S? Then there is no big deal that the M:S only have 6 tracks.
So I think they are different. I think they are both more suitable in a live situation. But I can see the M:S doing more studio time that the MC101.

Model:Samples got sample locks with a firmware update.

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I donā€™t have the M:S, but the amp envelope is quite limited with adjustable decay only.
You can use the lfo, but AFAIK thereā€™s only one lfo per track so M:S seems more suited for drums/percussion.

I donā€™t know much about the MC101 structure and synthesis and Roland still hasnā€™t uploaded the reference manual for the MC101, but it seems to me people compare M:S and MC101 mostly because both are portable (well Elektron didnā€™t release the battery pack thingie, yet or did they?) and in the same price range.

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One big let down (afaik) is that the mc-101 doesnā€™t seem to have inputs. If they had made this a looper for external gear as well, I would have been tempted.
Iā€™m so tired of companies, especially Roland intentionally limiting functionality in order to sell another bigger box. If the707 can sample external, why couldnā€™t the 101. Smh Roland

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just 3 words: will buy 707.

i studied specs & features of all modern grooveboxes when migrated to hardware setup, and finally 707 is the only one that has everything i need (and for moderate price).

it really appears to be a properly designed do-it-all live machine.

what i like most about this box is the proper set of outputs.
a single stereo pair of audio output and a single MIDI out port that we can commonly see in other grooveboxes is definitely not sufficient, and iā€™m happy that Roland engineers understand this.
iā€™m especially excited about properly implemented send/return sockets.

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Not sure you could use it for a long live set due to the current sample length limit unfortunately.

If it had a drive like the OT that would have been sweet.

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i use samples mainly for drum/percussion sounds, and do not use looper at all, so should not be a problem in my particular case.

AFAIK, 707 has 64 MB of sampling memory ā€” same as Blofeld with SL license. itā€™s sufficient for me.

I wonder if the 101 wouldnā€™t pair quite nicely with my Blackbox, on second thought. The more I bring my Blackbox around, the more I miss an equally immediate instrument for creating chords, bass lines, leads and stuff that go into the Blackbox.

So I wouldnā€™t use this for complete tracks, but for knocking out ideas that Iā€™d record into the Blackbox.

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it seems to be possible to sample thru usb i think

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If so, itā€™s something but still limited to newer gear.

The 101 seems needlessly limited. Youā€™re telling me you canā€™t add sampling on the smaller box? Why exactly is the memory limited if youā€™re using an SD? Would not upgrade from the Circuit.

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No user presets on these, right? Or did I over look them:

MC101 Reference Manual available.

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So it confirms the MC-101 can sample/loop from PC.
The interface seems not so great for sound design from scrath though, I hope thereā€™s a sound editor for pc along the way.

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the mc-101 is pretty packed with fx and featuresā€¦

It does resampling of tracks, mix and thru USB

only thing i m curious a bout if i m using it as a 4 channel looperstationā€¦ what the loading time would be for a maxed out project (6min audio)

Looks like I will sell Digitakt)))

BUT the price is a little bit high for the big machine

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Anyone know if itā€™s possible to import a clip from other projects while the sequencer is running ? It would make up for the 16 scenes limit.

Not possible. You can load clips from other projects but only with playback stoppedā€¦

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Ah ! Deal-breaker for meā€¦ I hope theyā€™ll raise the number of scenes then.

Anyone know if itā€™s possible to save a recorded loop as a .wav file?

Had a go at these today. A few takeaways:

Workflowā€™s awkward.

But they sound GREAT.

And while the big one is cool as is, the little one is quite the marvel.

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