that’s allright but it’s like XMas when your gear got an update with good addition
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Yeah agreed, tho I started this thread, the more I play with the 101 the more I’m meh about it.
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I love that the MC-707 is standalone, I need to be able to record and backup my projects without the need for proprietary software or drivers that might not work in a few years…
This is why I dislike my two Digitakts, I don’t understand why they can’t have USB mass storage mode to backup projects and class compliant USB MIDI and audio 
I might sell the Digitakts for this reason. With MPC Live and now MC-707 I can just backup the projects on the SD card and move them to a new unit if one would fail.
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Gotta admit I’m a bit on the fence too. I’ve had the 101 for almost 30 days so deciding whether to keep it, exchange for the 707, or go rogue on a Hydrasynth desktop.
Likes:
I do like the cheesy Roland presets
I do like unquantized/nudging on a Roland device
Looper track
The effects
The eq’s
Scatter performance
Short travel “tight” faders
Portability
Dislikes:
Always diving
Limited tracks
No real synthesis
Tone editing (both sound & seq) is a bit of a headache
Drums redundant to TR-8S
The “best as standalone” argument I agree with which would lean me towards the 707 to get that extra flexibility/depth.
Portability isn’t a dealbreaker since I have other portable gadgets op-z, op-1, blackbox etc.
Sorry guys I’m just rambling at work - having a coffee
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More impressions of the the 101, after one week of use…
Hits :
-Works well as a companion for the OT. The lack of tone editing options is counterbalanced by the abundance of content. A good proportion of the presets feel usable and it’s fun to go through them when inspiration is missing. Roland’s experience with libraries clearly shows;
-Relatively clean and loud output;
-Looper tracks are effective with textures. Much smoother and more predictable than with other loopers/samplers I’ve used;
-FXs are excellent and can be controlled by MIDI. Should be fun to operate them live with the OT;
-“Real” 1/4 jacks and MIDI ports;
-Lots of menu diving, but I like how the OS is transparent.
Misses:
-Not many options in term of modulations;
-No analog I/O. A clock output would have been nice;
-A basic, transposable arpeggiator would have been useful too;
-More assignable knobs would have been better, especially if more than one parameter per track could be tweaked at the same time;
-Ugly and uninspired design;
-Horrible manual. Typical Roland…
In all, I like the little guy. Paired with a few more machines, it should do a good job.
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For me the limitation of total looper time (if I understood correctly) is a big no go
I like it to play loops, that is it)
Some effects and faders
It would insta-buy for me
Despite all its shortcomings, I think I will give the 101 a chance. I will flip it later at a loss if I decide against it.
The fact of the matter is, I need an OT Jr of sorts for my newish project, and the 101 comes closer than anything else I’ve tried. Dunno if op-z with sampler mode and OPlab extension could give me comparable mileage though, maybe I still need to look into that one before deciding to keep the 101?
Anyone have both opz and the 101? Can op-z do sampled breakbeats, MIDI sequencing of longish patterns (preferably with pgm chng) and scatter/OT-scene type realtime effects like on the POs?
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Of course it all depends on what you want to achieve, but in my view that’s 30 one bar loops at 120bpm. Should I need more I can still:
- unload loops to make room for more loops, all while the sequencer is running
- do what we used to do with good old MPCs and chop loops in 16 to load them in a kit (much more than 60s here…)
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I understand, just wanted to use this as Ableton launch pad for vocal loops, and they are longer.
Just don’t understand, why in 2019 60sec is limit)))
having some issues with recording scatter from looper channel…: can u only re_recorded it into another looper channel. ot can u ‘midi style’ record scatter as part of the original channels clip?!
ok, thanks. How much sample storage does the op-z have? does it have timestretch? How many sample tracks can I use? What about pattern lenghts and programming scatters? I love my PO33 and if the opz has everything from the PO33 + more pattern and sample storage, it might be even better fit for my needs than the 101
Any good videos out there showcasing opz with samples and MIDI sequencing?
The scatter track is separate from each of the eight audio tracks. I do believe you can filter out which of the eight audio tracks that the scatter track affects, but I haven’t found that anywhere despite some digging.
So with that said, you don’t actually record the scatter track, but sequence it (similar to the OP-Z or Roland’s own Aira mixer). You assign a scatter effect to a step in the scatter sequencer, and tie it to multiple steps if you want the effect to last longer, and then you turn the track on and off from the actual Scatter button.
Things you can do to mix it up even further is to change the time division as well as the number of steps, not to mention that a step in the scatter track don’t necessarily need to have a pre-defined scatter effect tied to it. Each step in the track can have its own set of scatter parameters. The presets are there to help, but they’re by no means mandatory.
On the scatter menu page, there is a setting to choose the track it affects. It’s either on the master, the external in, or one of the 8 tracks. It’s either one or all of them though.
What issues do you have exactly ? The scatter is definitely recorded by a looper track depending on how you set it. If you set your input to one of the track[1-8] you have to set the scatter on the same track. Same for external input. Except if you resample the Main out, then you can put the scatter where you want.
Also, the scatter is audio, so no midi record is possible ^^
i m using a mc-101! i meant midi-style. not actual midi: what i meant is non destructive paramter based recording in stead of actual audio recording.
i want scatter triggers recorded as part of the track and not re-recording it on another looper track
I do not think there is a way to do that, at least right now. The scatter track might get its own MIDI channel in the future, if that happens then you will probably be able to externally sequence it.
How do you set the scatter to only affect a specific track on the 101? I’ve tried to look for the setting but cant seem to find it…?
Please Roland, fix this.
shift + scatter: settings - position
i really hope theyre gonna add it!
If you sell, consider the loss a rental fee 
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I’ve lost quite a bit of money selling gear. Its all good, life is expensive.
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Briefly returned to my Blackbox today. Got something going there in five minutes that I liked more than anything I’ve done on the 707 so far.
Hmmm …
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