Moog Moogerfooger MF 101 Lowpass Filter VS Vermona Filter Lancet / Retroverb Lancet

Hi Elektronauts, I’m after your thoughts on the sounds/capabilities of the above units.

While there’s a bit of discussion about them and some video demos on various forums I haven’t found a good user discussion comparing them.

It seems the Vermonas are a bit more versatile, but can they compete with the Moog filter sound? From demos it sounds as if the Vermona is a bit more intense and muffled almost, with a whistling resonance, while the Moog is a bit warmer and smoother (surprise surprise) with a more gooey liquidy resonance.

I haven’t been able to use either of them though, so any input would be much appreciated! :slight_smile:

I had a filter lancet. Very nice little box. The overdrive and distortions are nice. The lfo and envelopes are very snappy. The band pass was actually my favourite. The envelope follower combined with LFO was too much fun. I did compare the Vermona filter against my Moog and MS20, I would say the Vermona filter is closer in character to the MS20 sound rather than the moog sound.

In the end I sold it, couldn’t really see the point in keeping such a box when I have other gear that does the same thing.

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Thanks for your reply! What do you mean by snappy? Fast attack? Audible clicking? Do you recall any kind of distortion or muffling when using the low pass filter on the Vermona?
Which Moog were using as a filter?

Very interesting to hear you say the Vermona is closer to the MS20 - I’m keen to use a filter for drums and rhythms so don’t know if the famous scream of the MS20 would be appropriate. You can dial it back to be more subtle though, no?

Thanks again!

By snappy I mean fast attacks and fast decays. Really good for zappy, percussive sounds.

I wouldnt say it screams on drums, the MS20 scream is a much about the oscilators as it is about the filter, so filtering external audio gives quite a different sound. But yes, the vermona filter lancet had a very whistly resonance, more reminiscent of MS20 than the creamy moog.
My reference was a Moog sub 37, and an original MS20 (1979). And of course, you can always dial the resonance back

You have to watch your input levels otherwise it will clip easily. Even the manual says avoid the red light! The usual low end harmonic warble is there on the Vermona, but its a very clean filter on its own, the distortions can go very hard though. I liked both of them ‘drive’ and ‘balls’.

Really great box. If had got the retro verb lancet, I probably would have kept it. I really like vermona stuff, it is so well made and a joy to play.

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Thanks a lot Microtribe that’s all super helpful!

Very interested to hear other peoples’ thoughts, so please leave a comment if you’ve ever used either :slight_smile: