OctaEdit - Octatrack Software Editor and Librarian [ OSX / Windows ]

[poonti]

I’d hope if I was fraudulent and trying to scam money out of people I’d be able come up with an easier get rich quick scheme then making a very complicated software editor for the most complicated piece of music hardware, no?

Quote of the year right there -
You can trust Rusty, or not (maybe you’re the last $90 he needs to escape to the Caribbean, to sip pina coladas!)

[dudadius]

Just getting this going, now that OSX is live. Thanks so much and keep up the good work. Looking forward to the other modules coming online!

[Sternenlicht]

@ Rusty, what do you think - would it be possible to create a midi file import, into Octatracks sequencer data ? I dont know if its stored in OT´s file system, but if it would, a tool to convert midi files into OT patterns would be very neat.

[guga]

[quote=“Rusty”]I’d hope if I was fraudulent and trying to scam money out of people I’d be able come up with an easier get rich quick scheme then making a very complicated software editor for the most complicated piece of music hardware, no?

Quote of the year right there -
You can trust Rusty, or not (maybe you’re the last $90 he needs to escape to the Caribbean, to sip pina coladas!)[/quote]
…sell kitchin? (or chikin… )

[alfred]

Thanks Rusty, your answers were very helpful, and I will most likely come on board at some point soon.

Have you already made up your mind about the update pricing? I mean, will v1 be free for beta users? And will you up the price once v1 in out?

[Rusty]

@ Rusty, what do you think - would it be possible to create a midi file import, into Octatracks sequencer data ? I dont know if its stored in OT´s file system, but if it would, a tool to convert midi files into OT patterns would be very neat.

Yes, it would be possible… but complicated.

Read this thread: http://octaedit.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=69

[poonti]

[quote=“poonti”][quote=“Rusty”]I’d hope if I was fraudulent and trying to scam money out of people I’d be able come up with an easier get rich quick scheme then making a very complicated software editor for the most complicated piece of music hardware, no?

Quote of the year right there -
You can trust Rusty, or not (maybe you’re the last $90 he needs to escape to the Caribbean, to sip pina coladas!)[/quote]
…sell kitchin? (or chikin… )[/quote]
Jamaican jerk chicken and pina coladas, and herb

[Rusty]

[quote=“Rusty”]I’d hope if I was fraudulent and trying to scam money out of people I’d be able come up with an easier get rich quick scheme then making a very complicated software editor for the most complicated piece of music hardware, no?

Quote of the year right there -
You can trust Rusty, or not (maybe you’re the last $90 he needs to escape to the Caribbean, to sip pina coladas!)[/quote]
I can almost taste the piña coladas now

[Rusty]

Have you already made up your mind about the update pricing?

What update pricing? All updates since day one have been free.

I mean, will v1 be free for beta users?

Yes

And will you up the price once v1 in out?

At present, there is no plans to.

[alfred]

[quote=“guga”][quote=“poonti”][quote=“Rusty”]I’d hope if I was fraudulent and trying to scam money out of people I’d be able come up with an easier get rich quick scheme then making a very complicated software editor for the most complicated piece of music hardware, no?

Quote of the year right there -
You can trust Rusty, or not (maybe you’re the last $90 he needs to escape to the Caribbean, to sip pina coladas!)[/quote]
…sell kitchin? (or chikin… )[/quote]
Jamaican jerk chicken and pina coladas, and herb [/quote]
i get the joke but there’s other ways of cheating then escaping to the caribbean with a bag of money. for example software developers that remove licenses as they wish or that start to charge for updates and remove the statement from their webpage where they clearly stated future updates would be free. people who don’t take their responsibility any serious when they are being payed for a service. and some of those people made some very elaborate software as well.

i guess it’s all real funny until it happens to you.

[poonti]

[quote=“poonti”][quote=“guga”][quote=“poonti”][quote=“Rusty”]I’d hope if I was fraudulent and trying to scam money out of people I’d be able come up with an easier get rich quick scheme then making a very complicated software editor for the most complicated piece of music hardware, no?

Quote of the year right there -
You can trust Rusty, or not (maybe you’re the last $90 he needs to escape to the Caribbean, to sip pina coladas!)[/quote]
…sell kitchin? (or chikin… )[/quote]
Jamaican jerk chicken and pina coladas, and herb [/quote]
i get the joke but there’s other ways of cheating then escaping to the caribbean with a bag of money. for example software developers that remove licenses as they wish or that start to charge for updates and remove the statement from their webpage where they clearly stated future updates would be free. people who don’t take their responsibility any serious when they are being payed for a service. and some of those people made some very elaborate software as well.

i guess it’s all real funny until it happens to you. [/quote]
Clearly you’re venting about some other software developer than Rusty. I’m too lazy to re-quote so I will just refer you 2 posts up from here.

[alfred]

[quote=“alfred”][quote=“poonti”][quote=“guga”][quote=“poonti”][quote=“Rusty”]I’d hope if I was fraudulent and trying to scam money out of people I’d be able come up with an easier get rich quick scheme then making a very complicated software editor for the most complicated piece of music hardware, no?

Quote of the year right there -
You can trust Rusty, or not (maybe you’re the last $90 he needs to escape to the Caribbean, to sip pina coladas!)[/quote]
…sell kitchin? (or chikin… )[/quote]
Jamaican jerk chicken and pina coladas, and herb [/quote]
i get the joke but there’s other ways of cheating then escaping to the caribbean with a bag of money. for example software developers that remove licenses as they wish or that start to charge for updates and remove the statement from their webpage where they clearly stated future updates would be free. people who don’t take their responsibility any serious when they are being payed for a service. and some of those people made some very elaborate software as well.

i guess it’s all real funny until it happens to you. [/quote]
Clearly you’re venting about some other software developer than Rusty. I’m too lazy to re-quote so I will just refer you 2 posts up from here.[/quote]
dude, I am not venting, just asking simple questions. like the Octaedit page clearly states “ask before you buy”. Rusty, if you had the feeling i was venting any anger at you I am sorry, it is not my intention.
mr poonti, i won’t bother looking up the post you are refering to since you added nothing but troll comments.

[Rusty]

i get the joke but there’s other ways of cheating then escaping to the caribbean with a bag of money. for example software developers that remove licenses as they wish

No. But I reserve the right to do so for extreme scenarios / breach of EULA (i.e Piracy etc)

or that start to charge for updates and remove the statement from their webpage where they clearly stated future updates would be free.

Maybe in the future I will charge for updates, maybe I won’t.

If I build a module that makes you cookies… so free cookies for life! Maybe I think that should be a paid update… god knows I’d pay for that

This is why I dont say that all updates will be free. Because who knows what else is to come?

I also don’t say that they will be charged either.

So evaluate based on what is there.

people who don’t take their responsibility any serious when they are being payed for a service. and some of those people made some very elaborate software as well.

I’m not selling a service. I’m selling software.

If I was selling a service, trust me, your money wouldn’t go very far… you really don’t want to see my CV, skillsets and companies I’ve consulted for.

The software is presented “as-is”, it’s up to you as a potential purchaser to do your due diligence and evaluate if it is suitable for your needs.

Rusty, if you had the feeling i was venting any anger at you I am sorry, it is not my intention.

I’m good.

For now

[alfred]

i am aware it’s a license, not exactly a service. a EULA i haven’t found anywhere just a legal disclaimer. piracy not being legal is kinda obvious. and i was just mentioning an example of shady business ethics which some on here are unaware of obviously since taking money from people is all fun and games for some on here it seems.

i am holding on for now. i don’t feel quite comfortable about such a big deal and so much fun being made out of such simple questions. in the end this is a business not a charity so obviously people want to know what they are paying for. and where exactly was i ever demanding free updates? well thanks for answering anyway.

[poonti]

“no soup for you”

[void]

[alfred]

sorry for the fanboys who got butt hurt. you can have my soup instead.

[Rusty]

i am aware it’s a license, not exactly a service. a EULA i haven’t found anywhere just a legal disclaimer. piracy not being legal is kinda obvious. and i was just mentioning an example of shady business ethics which some on here are unaware of obviously since taking money from people is all fun and games for some on here it seems.

I think maybe that there has been some, shall we say, “misinterpretation” where mentioning an example has been construed as making an accusation.

And shady business ethics?

I’ve had years worth of source code stolen, and been tied up for years with lawyers dealing with that. My partner has had years worth of wages stolen from her, and tied up with lawyers / immigration / tax because of that…

Trust me… I’ve got a lot more miles, and a lot more scars then you can ever dream of…

i am holding on for now. i don’t feel quite comfortable about such a big deal and so much fun being made out of such simple questions. in the end this is a business not a charity so obviously people want to know what they are paying for.

Yes, I think maybe the best for now. For my part, I believe I have attempted to answer your questions, and not to make fun out of them.

But maybe it is a question of tact, if you come in swinging, throwing examples of other unrelated scenarios around, maybe the instinctual reaction is to be defensive?

As I said before… you sound quite risk adverse / once bitten, twice shy, and that is perfectly understandable.

I suggest if you are interested in OctaEdit, and you have your doubts, and that is perfectly ok…

Wait for the v1 release, then see what OctaEdit offers, see what other people say, have full documentation et al, and then make a decision based on all the evidence presented to you.

and where exactly was i ever demanding free updates? well thanks for answering anyway.

We can call that “lost in translation”…?

I never accused you of demanding free updates, I was specifically referring to your previous comment where you said:

“or that start to charge for updates and remove the statement from their webpage where they clearly stated future updates would be free.”

And I was merely pointing out that I don’t specifically say that all updates will be free, so that I am not tied into that scenario.

If I misinterpreted that, or I presented that in the wrong way, my apologies for that.

[clunky]

sorry for the fanboys who got butt hurt. you can have my soup instead.

many people have closely followed rustys OE efforts and he’s been around elektron forums since for ever, so we “fanboys” are well familiar with
him and his style and trust what he says.

soups gone cold

[Rusty]

many people have closely followed rustys OE efforts and he’s been around elektron forums since for ever, so we “fanboys” are well familiar with
him and his style and trust what he says.

What does this mean?