OT alternatives as a backing track sampler

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#1

I’m looking for a alternative for the OT.
My requirements are

  • can store and play alot of huge stereo samples
  • has at least a low-pass filter
  • does react to programm change midi to change the track

can also be a iPad app.

Does someone have an idea, does this exist?
Everything I find lacks at least one of my requirements

Cheers

#2

Out of curiosity why not the OT?

#3

Drambo ?

#4

OT is a bit annoying for this kind of purpose in my experience. Seems like a job for an SP404.

#5

1010 Blackbox?

#6

A few reasons, it’s too packed for my purposes, the workflow is very frustrating even when I learned what I had to do to make my samples play it still was always a struggle to program stuff in, also I don’t like the gain-staging and how the effects sound.
I get that it is a nice machine for some genres but for me it was way to thin and lifeless (but I don’t want to start a discussion about that - I know how opinions are about this)

#7

I looked at this device but I couldn’t figure out if it is possible to change patterns using program change. Do you have it and can tell me if it does? I downloaded the online manual but I didn’t find this specificly. Other than that it looks promissing.

#8

Never heard of it, looks promissing. But it seems like it doesn’t have a structure that makes it possible to have different samples played as if they where tracks so that it would change the sample when I send a program change.

#9

Ok, well the reason I asked is because there isn’t much else in the way of hardware devices that can do it, I have a Blackbox and Deluge and whilst both can play long samples, in the use case you describe I’d reach for the OT.

#10

I tried the SP404 but it doesn’t really work that well in regards of midi, it’s really hard to sync. Also the outputs are RCA. I really like the effects tho.

#11

AUM for iPad might do the trick. Set up all your tracks in separate channels, and use midi to mute/play enable/solo them. Bonus: you can save sets, and perhaps even load sets via midi.

#12

A computer device could work, some do work standalone.

:totes:

#13

Yeah but that destroys my dream off working DAWless!! :wink:

#14

No I have it not, but 1010 Blackbox seems to have it

… from their website …

  • Streams long samples from the microSD card with a max sample size of 4 GB, which can be many hours
    *1 stereo audio input and 3 stereo audio outputs, plus stereo headphones output
    *16 note polyphony: Up to 4 notes per pad for samples, 2 notes per pad for clips and slicers
  • 16 samples, 16 sequences and 16 song sections per preset
  • Supports 1 and 2 channel WAV files with 16, 24 or 32-bit resolution at any sample rate (48kHz preferred)
  • 24-bit ADC and DAC
  • USB MIDI Device In and TRS MIDI In can trigger samples, notes and sequences
  • TRS Clock In and Out, and TRS MIDI Out for synchronizing with additional instruments
  • USB powered – can run off a USB power block or wall outlet
    Dimensions: 5.5″ x 5″ x 1.25″ (14 cm x 13 cm x 3 cm)

Maybe this is what you wanted to know?

Could be helpful to describe the workflow, which is in your mind.

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#15

Thanks for sharing this I might have missed on that.

At the moment I’m using ableton for everything melodic, most of the time it’s 4 or 8 bar loops with stereo audio. For drums and percussion I use the Digitakt, for some synth stuff and bass I use the Digitone. I want to have the samples part that sits on my desktop pc in a hardwar sampler/device. Since the Digitakt is the midi-master I would like to have transport and prgm ch send via midi so that the sample backing track changes when ever I select a new pattern on the Digitakt.

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#16

See the manual, section “Use MIDI Devices with Blackbox/Work with MIDI Inputs/Use MIDI Program Change to Open a Preset”.

This could be what you are looking for.

#17

Thanks for sharing. Seems like the Blackbox would be a good solution for me

#18

Have you looked into Beatmaker 3 (iOS)? While I’m not sure about program changes, you can have samples mapped to midi notes and use chokes to ensure that they don’t overlap. It’s the most user friendly app I’ve ever encountered in terms of organizing your own samples (it has a dedicated files system) and assigning samples to projects is super easy (drag and drop, previews etc.). Can’t recommend enough!