Thanks. Cool, sounds good
The 3 OSC moog sound can be messy when made polyphonic.
Even chained Slim Phattys have a more narrow sweet spot. That filter is ideal for mono sounds.
But use those extra OSCs as modulation sources and it should be a wonderfully capable beast of a poly synth.
Lots to be excited about.
I was excited about the Pioneer AS-1 at first because it was the first 303-like mono to offer filter and osc FM, but it seems too fiddly to program, and those FM-features are hidden away in menus. The SE-02 has filter and osc FM along with PW FM, and the knobs are right there waiting to be tweaked (and hopefully parameter locked). I get so bored with monosynths that donāt offer ways to use the oscillators as modulators. I still canāt believe the $499 list price. This oneās a total no-brainer to me. Itās nice to feel this excited about something coming from Roland; I havenāt felt this in years.
Thanks for heads up. Iāll wait til user reviews/videos of the poly chain mode/sound appear before settling on how many to order.
Iāll probably get rid of my 0-Coast for this one. Two completely different synths in every aspect. The 0-Coast is one seriously capable noise maker and itās superbly designed. Itās justā¦Iām really, really rubbish with cables (and modulars). I need my knobs and user preset slots.
About the Moog thing. This is how you do it. Companies borrowing tech and ideas from each other, making their own thing with it, build upon it, thatās how technology moves forward.
What Behringer is doing, thatās straight up plagiarism. A clone. Thereās imitation and thereās plagiarism. Uli Behringer have always been a leech, so nothing surprising with him now plagiarizing as many synths as he can get away with. I saw this quote from one of the engineers working for Behringer in the Manilla HQ -if you start working at behringer, leave your brain at home. He was talking about beeing a young engineer, you wanna come up with new things etc, but thatās not how Uli rolls.
I like how it doesnāt quite sound like a Moog either; kind of like a hybrid Roland/Moog filter to my ears (unsurprisingly). I donāt even want a Moog. I want this.
Sound wise I think this thing sounds much better than the new Behringer moog clone. Its main point of difference is with the xmod options.
Without Xmod it would be pretty bland, but with it expands sound palette a lot and separates it from similar Moog clones kicking about
Same, plus the rather basic sequencer.
Elektron sequencers have ruined most on-board sequencers on other synths for me.
Pro 2, Monologue, and what looks like the SE-02ās sequencers seem to be the few exceptions.
Monosynths are for sound design mainly.
I love the sound and layout of this synth, but dam I think Iād get carpal tunnel syndrome trying to turn those tiny little knobs all day. Itās so damn tiny! Theyāre too close together and small. I have big hands I canāt spend hours on that little thing. Shame too because Iām in the market for a new mono soon.
I read that the price is expected to be 699ā¬?! More than I had hopedā¦
I do like the sound though. And 128 user presets! And stable tuning
MIDI controllers are very cheap these days too.
Plug one to the SE-02, set i tup to your needsā¦et voilĆ !
The small knobs are probably there because small frame means lower cost.
Make a costly eurorack module with tiny knob and no one bats an eye.
But make a desktop synth with the same knobs and everybody loses their mind!
Itās available for preorder from Thomann for 611ā¬.
Personally, before buying this I would wait and see how the Behringer model D turns out and what the price is going to be.
Here in Finland the local shop guy estimated the price to be 625ā¬, which cooled my excitement down couple of degrees.
I can get the Roland at a great price and the p-lockable sequencer, poly chain, small footprint aspects really appeal. I did have my eye on the behringer or a mother 32 (been wanting a legit moog voice in my hardware setup for a while). Will wait for reviews/vids on both boxes but for now the Se-02 is pretty far out front.
The idea of having to buy a midi controller to control a desk top unit is appalling to me. It really is a shame, this could have been a cool synth, and Iād certainly have paid an extra 100 if it came with usable knobs.
Maybe I should buy it for my girlfriend.
Iām sure sheāll be happy if she likes to make SOUNDS. Might be quite disappointed if sheās gets it for its size alone
Me, I wouldnāt buy it if it were larger because Iām short on space and I need room for one more synth and itās all I have.
People go nuts about Euroracks that sometimes are way more cramped and all of a sudden this is a issue.
I guess donāt buy it and move on to the other ones that you want. The beauty of choice.
Mustā¦Resistā¦Temptation to make obvious/weak joke
What people? How can you possible relate my ergonomic preferences to other equipment I donāt use?
Am I an asshole for not wanting cramped hands?
I canāt even imagine trying to tweak this thing live in a dark clubā¦
Please. Aggressivity goes absolutely nowhere.