was working on the AR today and all of a sudden I no longer had synth audio from clap track…it still had sample audio…I tried several different things to get it back, power cycle, different engines, etc etc…nothing would bring it back
so I decided to change projects before actually doing a factory reset…I clicked no on the save project first because I was thinking it saves patterns/kits as you work on them
long story short…changing the project got the synth sound back on the clap track but all the patterns/kits I created are gone…stings a little!
point being…while the AR OS is still new/buggy, I would recommend backing up often as you just never know what is going to happen
edit …I mean you should be backing up anyway of course…however, it’s easy to get caught up in the fun of a new instrument…coupled with the pain of C6 and well…things happen
I only lost a handful of good patterns/kits…generally, since the OT is the heart of my OTB setup, I will sample the drum track…I was getting lazy and just writing down the pattern/kit/project number across the OT/A4/AR…serves me right I guess.
The ones I sampled the drum track, I can always just slice up the sample. On the projects where I just sampled the master, I can hear the beat, I just won’t be able to slice it up since it’s mixed in with everything else. On the projects where I was real lazy and didn’t sample the master track, it’s just music without a drum track now.
You can save patterns and kits without saving the project. The kits and patterns you created will still be available after you turn the machine off and on, in fact they will be available up to you loading a new project.
At that point you can save the project and all of your kits and patterns will forever be available.
If you do not save the project then your kits ans patterns will revert back to what ever the last project’s last point was.
This allows you to completely change a project (maybe you played live that night and tweaked a bunch of stuff) but then reload the project as you left it.
And here is one more fact that got me pretty good 'till I figured it out:
As you are working the machine will save the patterns (and kits – I think) as you go, without you having to manually save them but, if you power off the machine without saving the project then it will only save the last pattern that you were working on.
I can’t tell you how many times I turned the machine back on, changed patterns and questioned my sanity thinking “What the heck was I doing.”
-turns out almost a year later I realize that I altered patterns and kits before powering off the machine and didn’t save them.
Correct. Simon confirmed this after I sent a (knee-jerk) ticket screaming explaining that’d I’d lost my work due to the Sound Menu freeze. I’d in fact “only” lost the kits and patterns I’d been working on PRIOR to the those I was working on at the time of the freeze. It still sucked.
Also for those who work in song mode, AFAIK this doesn’t auto save at all. You don’t save and then change songs or turn off the machine, it’s gone.
So, because of allllllll of this. I save my patterns and kits very often. -*yes and kit or pattern button, and I save my project at every break. Lastly, if I am working on a song I save that song after every change.
I have gotten in the habit of holding down yes and saving the three every 10 minutes or so as well as saving the project before I shut the machine down.
damn… i just read this few days ago, and lost my project (on a4)[/quote]
So this essentially means you must save the following prior to saving your projects:
Kits
Songs
Patterns
Is that correct?
If so, I’ll have to go back and save eVery pattern I have before I move onto another project. A bit tedious that is, but I suppose I’m already really good at saving my Kits and Songs before I shut down, so I don’t see why I can’t do it for patterns too.
damn… i just read this few days ago, and lost my project (on a4)[/quote]
So this essentially means you must save the following prior to saving your projects:
Kits
Songs
Patterns
Is that correct?
If so, I’ll have to go back and save eVery pattern I have before I move onto another project. A bit tedious that is, but I suppose I’m already really good at saving my Kits and Songs before I shut down, so I don’t see why I can’t do it for patterns too.[/quote]
dont think so. I think, that saving the project saves 1 and 3, no idea about 2.
my mistake was: assuming when saving kits and patterns that project will auto save. (it did not…my mistake alltogether!)
newbie RYTM user here. forgive my ignorance but i’m struggling to understand what i need to do to ‘save all’ when working on a new project.
if anyone can explain your process/workflow in basic laymen terms i would be forever grateful?
my understanding so far is a ‘project’ is an umbrella term that contains your kits, patterns and main bus FX settings, which makes up the entirety of your track. is that right?
and in order to save everything, not only do you have to create/save a new ‘project’ each time you’re working on a new song, but you also have to save individual kits/ patterns that make up your project?
if what i am saying is correct, when i save a project, kit and pattern, does it recall each part when i load said project?
or do i have to remember teach of kits and patterns i used and load them individually to restore the project? i hope that’s not the case as it will be a nightmare remembering what kit/[pattern was used where and i don’t think i would ever attempt to work on more than one project at a time.
i hope what i am saying makes sense. please put me right if not?!?
Everything is explained on page 18 of the manual :
PROJECTS
A project is the top level of the Analog Rytm workflow. A project contains 128 patterns, 128 kits, 16 songs, 4
global slots, and a project Sound pool consisting of up to 128 Sounds. Projects are handy when, for example,
you want to save a specific setup for a live performance or when managing a select number of compositions.
The +Drive can store 128 projects.
When a project is loaded it becomes the active working state of Analog Rytm, independent of the +Drive. Analog
Rytm will keep track of what project slot the active project was loaded from. When a project is loaded it is possible
to edit its patterns, kits, songs, and globals.
Within an active project, all changes made are automatically remembered by the Analog Rytm, letting you
switch back and forth between patterns and kits and edit the patterns, kits and parameters in any order you like
without the need to save each adjustment manually. Patterns, the active kit Sounds and settings, songs and globals
are remembered even after the power is turned off. However, regarding kits (the main entity for editing and
collectively storing a complete set of Sounds and effects), when the Analog Rytm is switched off, only the settings
of the active kit are preserved. If, for example, the kit linked to pattern 1 is edited (kit A), another pattern is
selected and its kit edited (kit B) and then the power is turned off, only the changes to kit B (the most recent
active kit) will be remembered. We highly recommend that you specifically save the kits you have been working
on manually using the quick command [YES/SAVE] + [FX]. Find out more about kits in the section “KITS AND
SOUNDS” on page 20.
Project changes are not automatically written to the +Drive. To store the active working state of the project to a
+Drive slot, the project needs to be saved manually. See below on how to load and save projects.
thanks, i’ve read that several times now. i’m a bit thick, therefore not 100 percent sure i understand the process. i’m currently working on one project, which is reloading each time i switch the RYTM on, but i’m scared to work on something else in case i burn my first project.