Sequencer Trouble After Updating to latest OS

Elektron Gear Analog Rytm
#1

Hello!

If anyone could help me with this you have my eternal gratitude. Sometimes when I change time signature back to 16/16 from something else (I think only 64/64) the timing sometimes gets completely messed up. I’ve attached a video demonstrating the issue:

I do a lot of live shows (next one on Saturday) and this kind of behavior is not acceptable at all, for obvious reasons. I never had this problem before updating to the new OS.

Please help, thank you so much.

Kindly,
Dawid

#2

I had exactly the same thing happen to me last night around midnight on a festival stage during a closing set. Luckily the drummer was still wide awake and realised I was in trouble and took over smoothly.

Gutted.

#3

AR gets confused when you shrink a pattern to less steps than the current play note.
I.E. the pattern has 64 steps, you shrink it while it is on step 43, BAM. Trouble. OT does this as well. You can either shrink at the start of the pattern, or use on elements that will not upset the groove when offset.

#4

yup, same here, but it’s not new, all the machines do it if you change pattern length at the “wrong” time.
this plus the pattern chain bug make the AR a liability when performing, except for vanilla 4x4 , 4 bar patterns.

#5

All right, I have come to peace with this problem now, and also learned that it has nothing to do with the new update, like Secretmusic and Mkdsl pointed out.

Either I just have the track muted when changing length like that. Or, when changing back from 64 to 16, one has to make sure that the loop is in the first 16-page, and not in 32, 48 or 64 pages, because that will cause the problem. So it’s quite easy to work around it, once you know what the problem is all about.

Thanks, everyone!

#6

pattern chain bug? What’s that? First time I ever heard about such a bug…

#7

pattern chain bug? What’s that? First time I ever heard about such a bug…[/quote]
essentially, this bug causes the AR to lose sync if certain conditions are met :

  • the master length is set to INF
  • tracks have different lengths
  • the AR is slaved to MIDI clock
  • the Direct Jump option is enabled
    in those cases, when switching to a new pattern, the AR will, most of the time, slip out of time with whatever else is synced. It’s not a reliable slip, it could be half a beat or more.
#8

pattern chain bug? What’s that? First time I ever heard about such a bug…[/quote]
essentially, this bug causes the AR to lose sync if certain conditions are met :

  • the master length is set to INF
  • tracks have different lengths
  • the AR is slaved to MIDI clock
  • the Direct Jump option is enabled
    in those cases, when switching to a new pattern, the AR will, most of the time, slip out of time with whatever else is synced. It’s not a reliable slip, it could be half a beat or more. [/quote]
    Have you updated to the newest OS? Since doing, I haven’t had trouble yet…

Unless you’re only taking about it with other devices. Can’t comment on that.

#9

pattern chain bug? What’s that? First time I ever heard about such a bug…[/quote]
essentially, this bug causes the AR to lose sync if certain conditions are met :

  • the master length is set to INF
  • tracks have different lengths
  • the AR is slaved to MIDI clock
  • the Direct Jump option is enabled
    in those cases, when switching to a new pattern, the AR will, most of the time, slip out of time with whatever else is synced. It’s not a reliable slip, it could be half a beat or more. [/quote]
    Have you updated to the newest OS? Since doing, I haven’t had trouble yet…

Unless you’re only taking about it with other devices. Can’t comment on that.[/quote]
I have updated indeed, to try OB. It messed up my whole sync setup though, so the last thing on my mind has been to try this again. I suppose I should give it a try, but there’s no rush, the AR is a studio machine at the moment.
Cheers

#10

pattern chain bug? What’s that? First time I ever heard about such a bug…[/quote]
essentially, this bug causes the AR to lose sync if certain conditions are met :

  • the master length is set to INF
  • tracks have different lengths
  • the AR is slaved to MIDI clock
  • the Direct Jump option is enabled
    in those cases, when switching to a new pattern, the AR will, most of the time, slip out of time with whatever else is synced. It’s not a reliable slip, it could be half a beat or more. [/quote]
    Have you updated to the newest OS? Since doing, I haven’t had trouble yet…

Unless you’re only taking about it with other devices. Can’t comment on that.[/quote]
I have updated indeed, to try OB. It messed up my whole sync setup though, so the last thing on my mind has been to try this again. I suppose I should give it a try, but there’s no rush, the AR is a studio machine at the moment.
Cheers[/quote]

There’s another post around here taking issue with the new OS and synching other machines. All i know is the direct jump bug seems solved.
Christ what a mess this OB is.