Maybe they should have just designed a detailed API that allowed other developers to interface to their products.
Thatâs also a product that while at similar cost is up to 7 years old. It might not be only shiny and new people want, but things like warranty, updates, newer / improved tech etc etc.
However I think that stat comes purely from the price point rather than any particular grudge people have against the OT. If the OT was that price, maybe everyone in electronic music would own one.
I actually have a couple reservations about the bigger boxes values, and that primarily around the investment vs the thing breaking out of warranty, or worse being stolen.
If that happened at the Digi price point I could live with it. If an Analog rytm Mkii was stolen from my car Iâd be shattered. I didnât wanna play in that league anymore, but if youâre a pro musician maybe it doesnât matter as much.
Itâs not just the sample rate, itâs also the sound engine. Itâs dated. The effects donât sound as good. OT sound engine is 10 years old now. There have been significant improvements in the algorithms for effects in elektron devices since the otmki launched. And in fact if you plug in any of your elektron devices to the ot of either generation on direct output vs direct from the synth you notice a significant decrease in brilliance and dynamic range. Not so if i plug my a4 into my dn, or vice versa. Also doing extreme sample manipulation at 44.1, even 48khz reduces the audio quality as halving the time also halves the perceived sample rate as the aliasing becomes more pronounced. Which is why in the professional world audio is recorded at 96khz-192khz if any kind of sample manipulation is going to be performed. As with anything itâs about using your tools and accepting how it sounds as part of its character but objectively the Digitaktâs sample engine at a base level sounds better.
Yep and will potentially sound even better when they release overbridge, providing direct digital streaming, bypassing the current necessary DAC/ADC stage of conversion
Thatâs what insurance policies are for.
True, but if youâre not in a position to drop 2k on an analog synth youâre probably not shopping for insurance either
Itâs also worth noting that OTâs workflow is not for the feint of heart. Imo thatâs the real reason the dt outsells it. It is far more accessible and nothing in its price range also had its feature set.
Oh man thatâs cruel. Iâm hurt
Reminds me of that awesome line in that Knife Party track
âYou blocked me on Facebook, now youâre going to dieâ
Been awhile since I plugged the AR straight to my analog mixer⌠Should check it out againâŚ
I do run an apogee at 96k at all times, so I am used to to that for software sounds and effects processing. Iâm one them that definitely claims to hear a difference even without any manipulation⌠Would love to hear these little digi guys hifi in person to see for myself⌠Perhaps one dayâŚ
You do run OT at 24 bit for recording and flex?
We had a comparison of an audio file and the same on captured through the OTâŚ
Many folks could not tell the difference and guessed wrong and that was sampling from the OT not even just playing itâŚ
Iâd love if we had a 96k OT⌠But many folks canât tell the differenceâŚ
Thatâs only part of my argument though. While it takes a trained ear to notice unmanipulated audio sample rate differences, and especially true on the same playback system you still have two different playback engines, two different effects algorithms, two different d/a convertersâŚ
Yeah, I shouldnât really dig into this too much, I donât even know why I careâŚ
Sometimes I just helplessly replyâŚ
Itâs good enough for jazzâŚ
I had them side by side and my modular sounded substantially better on a direct pass through. Itâs also well known that the delay and especially reverb on the OT is tired compared to everything that came after it. Keep in mind the A4 came 4 years later. DT 9 years later.
It probably does sound better was the first thing I saidâŚ
I mean i have an armkii a4mkii and dn. Iâm good haha
OTmk2 should of at least had the latest effects ported over.
The OT reverb is terrible, the A4 reverb sounds really good
Overbridge, Overbrigde, wherefore art thou Overbridge?
Sorry to say, but looks like itâs not going to get released⌠Vaporware.
Isnt that already released in the rytm mk2? I mean the hardware for it must be in it right?
Comparing with apple was hardly criticized in the past and now weâre back!
Just because apple and many other companies do it that way doesnât mean itâs ok!
Btw apple is no good willing company and just because of these facts iâm no apple fan anymore!
BUT apple is fullfilling etas
Sad sad sad!
I never implied it was, or wasnât.
Simply offering an example of manufacturing high profit, low cost products and how companies utilize that success to fund higher cost, lower profit products. And how instead of a perceived death nell to the more advanced side of the product line, it can help to keep it alive and evolving.
Youâre missing the point.
Iâll use another example since the Apple example seems to trip folks upâŚ
At the company I work for, we cure and smoke meats. If we relied entirely on our high dollar products, which take a long time to cure, things like Duck Prosciutto, or Dry Cured Lamb Hams, weâd go out of business. Those products are our pride and joy, but not everyone can afford them. Our smoked sausages require less time and money to produce, and are far more popular. The sale of those lower dollar products helps us expand the high end of our product line, and it allows us to produce other higher end products⌠more Coppa, Lomo, Guanciale, etc.