I did this a while ago.
https://maxforlive.com/library/device/6850/octascenes
That s a really cool plugin you made thereā¦ OT and Ableton fusionā¦ really cool, maybe something for a V2?
<<< UPDATE: the set works on Ableton Standard! >>>
Thanks to Untitled I have realized that if I remove the one placeholder synth from the set, it will open on Ableton Standard! had no idea, super happy for this so thank you!!
The files on https//:rapidflow.shop have been updated with template files for standard.
I have also added the explanation video in full length to YouTube so feel free to share with anyone interested. https://youtu.be/OEoSkSXK_Bs
Thank you everyone for your interest, generous support and really helpful tips! Hope this workflow will keep on growing.
Best
Erik
Hi is this a template that can be used with loops imported or recorded from a piece of hardware like an MPC/RYTMā¦etc as well?I wasnāt sure if this is all software synth and sample based or if I can bring my own sounds.
Exactly! The loops that are there are just a starting point so you get the right levels and frequency when you bring your own samples in. Theyāre a mixing reference broken down into basic elements. The set definitely needs custome loops and instruments
Ah nice! This looks like a more complete version of a toy project I did to achieve the same thing.
I made life difficult for myself by writing all the logic in Typescript - I donāt really know Max and didnāt feel like learning it haha, but in hindsight thatās definitely a better way to go.
The performance gets quite slow in my version when you have a lot of stuff mapped, unsure if that is because Iām using JS or hitting some M4L limitations. Itās pretty rough anyway so Iām glad someone made a better implementation of the idea! https://github.com/tomduncalf/livefader
Not sure how robust/efficient my patch is, to be honest, I didnāt play a lot with it.
Regarding javascript in m4l, I gave up using it in anything real-time. It gets very laggy very quick.
Yep, I think youāre right. Going to have to bite the bullet and teach myself Max!
I tried Kapture, but couldnĀ“t get it to automate, only been able to perform switching between the different snapshots live. So this is only a performance tool? Am I missing something here?
You could set up two settings i.e. mixer states with levels, and compare these mixes with a flip of a button, so you know which sounds better. Or have a fallback when you went astray with device settings etc.
I get that, but Iād love to use it as a composition tool. For example to morph between two snapshots. One could dreamā¦
Ok cool. I donāt use drum racks, I already make the loops on my hardware and just bring in to arrange and mix in ableton. So I may need to figure that out, maybe just delete the drum racks or something.
Yeah you could do the drums as loops in channel 1 and just delete the Drum rackā¦ Would work fine
Great template.
Just one remark. There a lot of noise coming from the Master track even when I stop all the tracks. It seems that it comes from the OTT module. When I switch it off, everything is ok.
Any ideas ?
Iāve noticed that too, if you have some ground noise it gets boosted by OTT, in my case I used the AR with ovebridge so having any channel on monitoring was introducing ~-80dB of noise, OTT made it really audible by boosting to ~-35dB, so I suppose you can put a gate before OTT to kill the noise or get rid of the OTT
Thx for the feedback. Happy to hear it. Weird about the Noise. I think OTT only amplifies what is there. I didnāt notice noise when demoing the project, but might have missed itā¦
What happens to me sometimes is having one or multiple channels on āInā monitoring on and then the noise builds up. What I do is reset all fader meters by pressing CTRL and one of the numerical read outs, that rested them all. Then I hunt for noise channels and adjust monitoring, plug-ins or if nothing works out a gate on that channel with long hold and releaseā¦ hope that solves it.
itās really easy to emulate, go to one of the COMPOSE tracks and throw an Echo there, doesnāt matter midi/audio, you can add noise from the Character tab, set it to 1% Amount, 10% Wet and watch the world burn
j.k., but what should be about ~-75db in noise becomes ~-40db because of the OTT
of course -80dB can come from anything, audio interface, monitoring of OB or whateverā¦
Like your writing style my friend. It s an interesting point. Will research it and see what s possible. Guess Over The Top lives up to itās name
Just wanted to share a video I made that shows the ADPTR AB plugin which allows you to reference tracks in your production. As boring as it appears, no other plugin has had such a big positive impact on my soundā¦ If you havenāt used it these 15 Mins are probably really worth your time.
I bought it already, its really usefull - and was on sale - really a good investment.
I might add, that a monitoring track implemented, would be a nice addition to your template, i.e. master in - some other audio out to 2nd set of monitors, or as i do it - to a mono bluetooth box, which comes cheap, just to monitor your mix in mono , and to rehearse it on a typical consumer device is really practical. (And much cheaper than an Auratone.) maybe put the A/B plugin on this , so you could really hear the tracks side by side if you wanted.
Before that - i did render put uploaded to soundcloud listen to it via phone, went back to fix the mix- having such a device as alternative on the output, is really practical.