Synthstrom Audible Deluge [inc. Open Source development]

I’ll need to try again post factory reset. Just seemed weird that I could audition l/play the sample but just not sequence it!

Oh dear … this isn’t what I wanted to hear … maybe I should regard the deluge as a sequencer/sampler purchase … with the possible bonus of some included synth sounds…

What’s your reference and expectations? What’s a great synth for you? It might be just fine, depending on taste.

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Taste and expectation.

This is heresy to many but I’ve yet to come across a piece of hardware that I didn’t, in time, think I could replicate in the box (Octatrack an exception to that). I’m definitely at my happiest in the box but still in the mood for a portable fun box like the Deluge.

Is it going to create tracks that’ll wow and amaze vs my ITB stuff? Almost certainly not but I’m ok with that for now .

For me, it’s a question around whether the UI and quirks are going to be things I can work with and around.

Yeah it is definitely capable of some nice sounds I think, obviously if going for Roland type sounds (which I use a lot) then the Deluge isn’t what I’d choose over say the MC-101, but for some stuff the Deluge is interesting in its own right and pretty flexible too.

I still have my Deluge and don’t see it going anywhere soon.

I’ve written it somewhere else here, but again:

Tell me a synth where you can define the live line in signal as osc. That you can tune up, down, play polyphonic, etc. While you twist the drone that hangs on line in. On multiple tracks.

Alone this is a keeping argument imho.

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And hook it up to keys, it responds really well to playing it -

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Factory reset appears to have fixed this one. No idea what the root cause was.

I love playing mine with keys too, but have encountered a couple quirks:

  • Sustain pedal does not do anything. I’ve read that you can map it to env1 release but have not been able to get that to work
  • Mod wheel is only assignable on whole parameter ranges. I don’t use it with the Deluge synths for this reason
  • The default velocity > volume mapping is too extreme for me, I always dial it down. Working on a python script that will do this across all synths/kits.

Would love to hear thoughts on workarounds :slight_smile:

The more I have mine, the more I like the synth engines. Listening back to some jams I’ve made this month, the Dellie synths sit better in the mix than my Peak (although this could be user error on my part, especially over use of that reverb)

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Yeah, I got no work-around but the same experience as you :slight_smile: I dial down the amp to avoid the synths from clipping when I play it, just like you.

The synth engine certainly has character and it has this certain melancholia and nostalgia over it, which keeps pulling me back in. @rephazer made a goddam brilliant sound pack for it called Rust which I personally think is better than Boards of Deluge, which is saying something cause the BoD are awesome, too.

That’s the flip side of those analogues or DCO + analogues with all that body. They sound great. Work them in a mix, not always so easy if you want to layer stuff. They just eat up the headroom, and rightfully so, I mean, they should - that’s why you go for all analogue when that’s what you want.

Right now, I’ve actually stowed away all my gear and work with only the Deluge. I just released an EP and I’m taking a break from my Prophet 12 which was all over it. Comparing A to B when you got gear next to each other is one thing, the difference is huge when you stack a Prophet against a Deluge. But if the Prophet’s not around … this idea of missing that richness it brings, could be just an idea. I can certainly get by and do things I really like with the Deluge and its engine only.

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4 tutorials in and starting to feel like I might be falling in love with this thing. I knew it could do a lot but when you spend a bit of time with the sampling, or pitch shifting the input, looping, all that stuff you can’t help but have your jaw drop a bit. I don’t in the slightest need this thing but what fun!

The guy I bought it from had also knocked together a load of A4 multisample which sound great too. I wonder how easy it would be to use Logic’s multisample and to export over to the Deluge… Will save that one for the future - not even made any music with the thing yet!

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Best way to learn anything! Explore in freedom :slight_smile:

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 happy customer!

scroll down into the comments - there is something coming next week or so :wink:

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Absolutely. Just completed a walk through of the synth engine. Reminds me a lot of an old Novation X Station I had years ago. Very functional with the ability to sound pretty good (as heard with some of the Boards of Deluge stuff). Going to sit through a sampling one next - this guy is pretty good:

Then maybe, just maybe, as I sit down to watch some NFL this evening I might try a few things out with this on my lap.

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Thanks for the suggestion about clipping! I thought I was hitting the limits of the CPU on one of my songs. Turns out, just needed some proper gain staging.

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Ooh, you’re tempting me! Any idea how many of the presets rely on multi-samples? @rephazer - appreciate the work, listened to the EP last night, good stuff :slight_smile:

Right on about analog vs digital, re: headroom. Reminds me of when I was a teen trying to choose a guitar based on internet reviews. Of course I wanted a Gibson - they sound “warm, fat, full, etc.” … now I have a strat & a tele and couldn’t be happier, ha!

Excited to hear what you come up with! I’m in a similar place - when I first got the Dellie I tried to hook it up to my Peak for most of the lines and then sample. The past few weeks I’ve found myself gravitating more to keeping it all “ITB”

@J0n35y glad you’re enjoying it! It’s a machine that keeps on giving

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Thanks for the heads up @circuitghost! Much appreciated and I am glad you like it.
I hope those patches will come in handy on your new standalone usage/adventure with the Deluge.

@Affectionate-Bee-781 My soundpacks rely 100 % on (multi) samples. In case of the Rust soundpack most of the pacthes (around 84) use single note samples, since there was no possibility to use multi-samples yet on the Deluge when I made the Soundpack. The included Rust expansion ‘Rustier’ (around 16 pathces) which I made last year use multi-samples of Mellotron, Orchestron and string-machines.

The Ananlog Befour and Digital Tones Soundpack are both made using multi-samples only.

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Just discovered this and wanted to share … let me know if I’ve breached etiquette here and I’ll remove.

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Not against the rules to post a cool use of a piece of gear :slight_smile:

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MPE incoming!

Curious if the mod wheel can be assigned to one of the x/y parameters - so we could use the mod wheel as a mod source with attenuation. (Please let me know if there’s another way to do this :slight_smile: )

@blipson something for you maybe?

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