Aleja Sanchez. Also listening a lot to medellin style podcast soundcloud half asleep in train. Saludoss gracias a colombiaa
Nobody has to agree about anything!
A mild consensus is always nice though. An acceptable range perhaps.
I’m sorry to potentially derail this thread with an ignorant question, and feel free to point me at readings or tutorials. What I know of techno comes from listening and reading on this forum. I more or less understand it as made on Elektron boxes and other devices by many here and others more famous. But in the first video in this thread (and many others), there are turntables. What is on the records? The box in the middle is a DJ mixer? What is the woman doing to sculpt and build her sound? Thanks.
She’s thinking. It’s called Thinking Woman’s Techno. Try to keep up!
My guess is that this is what’s called timecode vinyl - it sends signals to dj software on a computer (the touch screen not visible to us), in order to sync up running tracks on the dj software. The board in the middle seems to be mixing, eqing, and maybe doing effects sends (the first one seems fairly hands-off). Timecode vinyl (in my understanding from a little research and no experience) allows a dj to mix actual records and audio files in a set on physical turntables rather than jogwheels. DJ mixers plus software like this enables pretty extensive live remixing and looping (like an Octatrack without the sequencer) and effects that also work with audio passed through on vinyl. I think, curious if others can add more.
Yes, but what did you really mean?
Is there a secret message we are not getting?
Thank you for this informative reply. “Timecode vinyl” is what I was missing (and the hidden computer). I’ve seen people create hip-hop with regular vinyl, and they are a lot busier. I also know about the looping and beat-matching capabilities of DJ mixers like the Xone:DB4. Later in the thread there is a video of the same artist using Pioneer DJ decks, which are more obviously controllers to manipulate digital samples. But this looked like real vinyl on real turntables, which it was, but special versions of each.
I found these two very detailed blog posts about the technical details of the encoding (the second one is linked in the comments of the first), from someone on the team for one of the major open-source products. There seem to be several proprietary formats, a couple of which dominate the industry, and some mixers can interface with them.
My own favorite!
Another artist that fits the category is Abulla Rashim:
More generally, Northern Territories is a label that host a lot of such treasures…
https://northernelectronics.bandcamp.com/
In a different kind of electronic music, Serge Geyzel also makes gems.
In darkest territories, I’m fond of Headless Horseman’s sound, but we might be closer to banging techno…
Some of my favourites:
Plaster - Platforms:
Kangding Ray - Ultrachroma:
Ellen Allien & Apparat - Orchestra of Bubbles:
Ellen Allien - Sool:
and actually everything by KVITNU, Raster/Noton and DETROIT UNDERGROUND
Speaking of which… I think this @AdamJay masterwork definitely qualifies (but does go into “thinking man’s electro” a bit in the second half):
Fascinating, thanks for posting this! From now on, I’ll imagine (incorrectly, of course) that djs listening to the cues in their headphones are listening to a 1000Hz sine wave…
It also appears that in post 2 Joris Voorn is largely just manually syncing, playing, and eqing several-minute segments of recent prerecorded tracks that were pressed to vinyl. The performance and technical appeal of Voorn’s sessions with hardware synths is easier for me personally to grasp, to wind back in the direction of the thread topic:
Nice! Thank you for the discovery!
Great question!
So the timecode thing was already answered. I think the first version of this was Native Instruments Traktor. It basically stored the music, and then you did your DJ mixing just like you always would on turntables and analog DJ mixer. The idea was that you’d digitize your record collection, then not have to haul around crates of records, (so easier for a traveling DJ) and also reduces wear and tear on your vinyl. The process is identical, and requires the same skill set. Now I think there are several such products.
Right around that time, CD mixers like the Pioner and Denon ones you see in many sets became popular. While I still really enjoy vinyl sets, and hold them in somewhat higher regard, the digital methods make a lot more sense for large venus, (and smaller home setups for people that don’t own SL12x0 series turntables…) so you don’t have people swapping out turntables, mixers, etc. between sets if they have their own thing. Everyone gets a standard setup. If you have a warehouse or festival full of people that just want to keep dancing, having standard stage gear becomes more important.
As far as making Techno, it’s been done since the end of the 80s moving into the 90s through today. Pre-dating Elektron gear, though Elektron is definitely prevalent these days. (due to it being just that good really, and easier to work with than the archaic sequencing methods employed in the earlier years. Techno-proper was typically done on things like the 808, 909, 303, 101, old Moogs, Rolands, and then later (90’s) on more of the newer prevalent analogs, VAs, workstations, Mackie Mixers Akai samplers and other sorts of gear.
Here’s an early example of the sort of Techno this particular thread is about:
This one is more Acid, but still hypnotic and minimal:
This is where the “range” of styles that could fit come into this. I feel like a lot of Acid can really go into this thread. Less of the slamming distored Acid House and Techno, and more of this really minimal 303 work that just pulls you into a hypnotic state.
Thinkin’ Electro is always welcome! Thinking Acid, Thoughtful Breaks along the lines of Uberzone could even fit here. (maybe less sampled break loop styles though, but the more techy styles are THAT close to being Techno anyway…)
Something like Mr. Mech’s break here is Techno if Techno had more breaks. Whatever that means. IDM style stuff has quite techy principles, it just isn’t straight Techno I suppose.
i love steevio’s approach, his music is so recognizable