For me, one big factor is how much you value Overbridge (OB).
It seems very likely that Elektron is dedicating a lot of cycles to get OB to public release. That would slow down firmware updates if it’s the same software staff.
For those not interested in OB, it makes perfect sense that it would be disappointing to get updates less often.
For me I have high interest in both firmware updates, and OB updates. If they told me they need 6 months to get OB and 1.11 out of beta, I’m content with that.
I have some faith that they are not done with DT, and will give it love in the future.
Maybe I’m foolish
That goes for both sides, doesn’t it? To be fair, a company should only sell a product with exactly the features it got and not with what may be added to it in a couple of years or so
And when I bought it I could (it said) live record retrigs. Since then it has disappeared from the manual.
I’m playing the DT with the Nord Drum 3P. It should be amazing but ends up being fairly frustrating.
Velocity sensitivity on the DT would really wake up the sound engine. Filter envelope is an obvious destination. I use FM-like LFO + ramp on the attacks, and velocity routing to LFO depth would make the amount of “crack” more responsive. Pulling the HPF down on hats is a nice trick.
retrig on MIDI notes.
I would like to address the MIDI tracks with a given note as you can with the audio tracks. ND3 doesn’t address notes per channel. I’m getting a MIDI processor to work around this. To be fair, this is Nord’s fault more than Elektron’s.
Stereo through. The amount of gear you have to slug around matters.
I know these are not possible at the moment but I wonder if it was just an oversight or possibly even a bug.
Does anyone know a little more about how retriggers actually work? Are they literally just re-triggering the note multiple times? If so I don’t see why this wouldn’t be possible and expected of the midi tracks as well.
Alternatively, I’m wondering if the sample tracks could be used to sequence midi in Ableton by just turning their volumes down. Do they generate any kind of outgoing midi?
I was hoping to use the DT as a standalone fun box but also as a sequencer for my Ableton DrumRacks to make use of the inspiring Elektron sequencer and its retrigger abilities as opposed to wrestling with the piano roll which I am not a fan of.
OT doesn’t even really have midi retrig with adjustable settings and whatnot like it does for audio tracks. It has “trig counts” for midi tracks which allow you to have up to 7 repeats (for a total of 8 quick notes) that are evenly spaced between the sequencer trigs. Non of the boxes have full midi retrig…
Yep. I never really thought “Its in other boxes so it should be in this one.”
More along the lines of “This is present in the sample tracks. I see no reason that it wouldn’t by default also be present in the midi tracks.”
Its just a tool to repeat a note at a given rate/division and for a set amount of times. You can max the tempo of the DT while generating midi trigs and it handles the quick succession of notes well.
I’m going to choose to see it as an oversight until told otherwise out of optimism. I think if we frame this from a common sense “Why shouldn’t these trigs work like the others” there may be a chance of some change on this.
I’m also trying to understand where the bottleneck could be on this. Maybe CPU?
You can choose to do what you want, as is your luxury when you’re a sentient being, however if you’re awaiting a designer or engineer to come into this thread and explain the Why’s and wherefores of each decision, then I feel you’ll be waiting a longtime.
There was a thread recently, where Simon gave his email address and invited questions. Maybe that’s your way forward.
Bottleneck is the midi cable/protocol I imagine. Imagine having all 8 midi tracks full of trigs with fast lfo’s and then turning the retrig up for all tracks. All the sudden it’s like dozens of times as much midi data, and at uber fast speed.
Don’t get me wrong I’ll take it if they can add it… Just speculating on why it’s not there, not even on OT…
