To sequence MS20 - A4 vs SQ-1?

Hi, I’m looking to squeeze even more fun out of my MS20 mini. I’m considering some sequencing options.

(Right now my A4 is up for sale, but I’m truly kind of on the fence about it.)

I know asking on an Elektron forum the vote is liable to swing towards the A4… but, for those who own both or have experience, what did you prefer?

I like the idea of having knob-per-function in my gear. Seems like the MS20 and SQ-1 would give plenty of that old-school feel.

On the other hand, the A4 gives the ability to save sequences, p-lock, 64 steps, etc. Yes, more powerful.

But I am leaning towards simplicity these days and limitations, forcing me to record and move on.

Any thoughts? What would you prefer for sheer fun and old school jamming?

Plug and play … well, yes, it’s Korg gear after all and the SQ-1 is supposed to work with the MS20. Just put the output voltage right (pitch is Hz/V)

I like the little black box, easy enough to use, much fun. It has 2x8 steps. Either use 16 steps for one track or 8 steps for two tracks. The range of voltages for different pitches is limited. There is no pattern memory. IMHO the SQ-1 has a nice old school feeling, it’s easy going and the various pattern and pattern change options are great and usefull for live jamming - but it does not hold up to the features of the A4 sequencer.

You may want to download the two-page manual and compare it to the A4 sequencer yourself :wink:

I got my SQ1 last week for use with the ms20 mini and its great, its cheap but does what it says. I have the OT but not the A4, the A4 was considered but I didnt buy it. It is a bit too expensive and I have plenty of other synths. If you can afford to keep the A4 keep it but if not the sq1 is a great little device, ive been using it connected to the electribe 2 which is in turn connected to the OT.

Lets face it you cannot compare the A4 and SQ1

Thanks, but this is all I’m looking for. ^ You could have easily stopped there without the snark.
More of a casual discussion of gear over beers - impressions and preferences. I’m not calling the Elektronauts help desk asking how to p-lock something. Not sure how a RTFM applies here. :wink:

I have an A4 and Sq1, unfortunately no MS20 :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:. Anyway i thought i would have more fun using the sq1 but something that bothers me about it, compared to a4:

its hard to copy values between steps on the sq1. This is something thats very useful on the A4. The knobs are tiny and i find it difficult to be precise.

Its quite cheap though and has some features the a4 does not have (direction/pingpong/bounce)/ But the knob values are difficult to read and compare. I think the sq1 is more like something that fits in the Volca series and viewed/valued as such, though the sq1 tends not to be compared to the volcas…

sq1 with mini is instant gratification - no pissing about, for the money it’s hard to beat, especially as it’s highly compatible - infinitely more power in the A4, but just a little more recessed, and probably less fun for it - however - it’s a good thing they’re both different as they both cater for different usage cases and needs - even with the limitations of the sq1, i’d say get one - it’s fun fun fun and very hands on, but the fine-tuning with the knobs is a bit of a joy killer (a few other quirks too, but nothing to dampen the fun)
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different beasts, both recommended for different days - but to put it into perspective - i’ve only dabbled a bit with the A4 combo - but have had plenty of sessions with the mini w sq1 - hands on and in the moment wins every time - far more liberating, plus you can ‘drive’ the sq1 in much more interesting ways and touch it more intuitively and decisively - it plays, just like the ms20 which is a glorious hands on synth

Thanks, but this is all I’m looking for. ^ You could have easily stopped there without the snark.
More of a casual discussion of gear over beers - impressions and preferences. I’m not calling the Elektronauts help desk asking how to p-lock something. Not sure how a RTFM applies here. :wink: [/quote]
Sorry, if my post was misleading. Really, no RTFM meant, that’s not my nature anyway. My point was that compared to an Elektron sequencer the SQ-1 is very elementary, but it is much fun too :wink: .

Fantastic descriptions everyone. Thanks very much for the input. I think you’ve all just sold me on the SQ-1. Sounds exactly like what I’m looking for these days. Immediacy and hands-on fun.

The only thing I wonder about is if Korg will eventually release a full-sized retro version like the SQ-10? Kind of like they released the MS20 mini > MS20 full-sized kit > MS20 desktop. Might make it easier to dial in exact values on larger higher-quality knobs? Eh. Oh well. $99 bucks is not too much to go ahead with I guess.

@SoundRider - Ugh. My apologies. Interweb posts are easy to misinterpret I guess.

@Bwax no problem, cheers :wink:

Have you seen the original box? I have a MS-20/MS-50 here and this is much volume. The SQ-10 was the size of the MS-50. I am glad to have this little nice thing. Yes the poties are small, but okay. Sooner or later I might get myself a second one …

Don’t forget to order a set of cables with 3.5 mm to 6 mm jacks too. The SQ-1 has the small the MS-20 the big sockets.

Hi SoundRider, yes, I’ve seen the original SQ-10. I love the looks of it. I am a sucker for the aesthetics of older audio gear. A remake would look pretty dern cool next to the MS20 mini. Trouble is, what size would they make it now that there is a MS20 mini as well as older and newer full-sized MS20s? Hmmm. They probably won’t make it though, so I should stop thinking about it. :joy:

Interesting stream on A4 + SQ-1