8 notes per step should be enough generally for me doing drums (for rytm and digitakt)
I do love a randomiser, but separating up the elements is a good idea to have a bit of balance, so I’ll have to try an find a workflow combining both ways you mentioned.
So how are the squid users finding theirs after a little time with it ?
Seems like it’s really a breeze to lay a few trigs here and there and go mad with all the real time manipulation avaliables…Is the time/groove bend interesting ?
After getting used to its workflow, you will love or hate it, it can do grooving wonders to your midi stuff.
I mainly use it as a link between my DAW and my gear, works great.
Solid clock (it jitters in 0.01 steps) as master or connected to your DAW ( i tried Ableton Live, Bitwig & Cubase).
As you know, you can drag and drop midi pattern from it to your DAW and vise a versa and the latter i do regulary to get some life into my old midi clip collection.
Well this groove bend thingy is my candidat for 2019 “Roland´s D-Beam”. Don´t get me wrong the Squid has a lot of cool features for making your stuff groove, but I could not tease anything good out of the groove bend
Nice review ! This thing is tempting ! It has tons of cool tricks to make interesting stuff I think.
One thing which is a letdown though and which is not mentionned in the review is the total absence of midi exposed parameters…
I was already picturing myself controlling time modulation with an enveloppe follower and tons of octatarck lfos…
Hence the reputation of the company better get the thing for what it is now and don’t expect anything more…
Already pretty original/decent stuff imho.
Not that i know of; nothing that wasn´t fixed with a firmware update respectively.
Funnily enough we are talking about Pioneer, since the release of the Toraiz Squid we got three firmware updates which also have added new features. Unfortunately, one can not deduce anything about the future development. But you should not expect that anyway as a purchase decision.
This is possible, but there are some limitations to consider
Polyphony differs (Squid can play up to 8 Notes per step)
Microtiming / Swing / Quantisation (Squid has a lot of features to make unique grooves)
Pattern length (while similar on first look , Squid has some tricks under the hood to make 4 bar loops feel like 16 bar loops, like a Pioneer version of Track scaling)
Nothing mentioned here will stop you from recording back and forth (between the devices)
but can lead to a point where your sequences sound wrong / different on the other (Elektron) device.
Thanks for the reply. Keeping the microtiming groove between the two would be important. Wonder if they’re similar resolution… Thanks again for the insight. I might have to try and demo one.
Squid has a beat repeat mode (1/8, 1/16, 1/32 standard timings)
i used the Squid pads to record into the Analog 4 (MKI)
the Analog 4 recorded the timings 1/8, 1/16 with no issues and it sounded identical on both devices, but using the 1/32 timing the Analog 4 played and recorded as 1/16 notes where their should be 1/32 notes. I tried it without activated quantisation. If you want to record 1/32 notes you have to set your Elektron device´s track scaling to x2. (Thanks mkdsl)
After revisiting the thread and thanks to mkdsl´s answer i can tell you that this test was short sighted because of missing information on my part.
Hope you are aware that elektron has native 1/16 resolution for the trigs. You would have to use the x2 time division to get /32 or record as retrigs. Can’t record two different events on 1 trig step.
Hello friends, I just got a squid in the studio , i waant to trigger my tr8. I can only trigger it using scale mode on the squid…(kinda sucks ) . Is there a way to trigger the tr8 ussing cc values , like assigning an individual pad for each sound on the tr8 ??