Virus occasionally starts the OT sequencer - need Help pls!

Elektron Gear Octatrack
#1

Hey Guys’n’Gurls,

I’m running into trouble. After a long while, the OT started calling me again and I freed up some time to give love to it. And my Virus TI.And the other Stuff.
First things first: The Setup:

Octatrack Autochannel on 9
Novation Circuit Ch1,2,10 (cannot be changed)
Virus TI in sequencer mode, so listening on 1-16, I use 3-8 and 11-15 usually
Novation RemoteSL on Channel 9

I’ll do a quick draw of the setup: (Damn fine Arts incoming)

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Ok so everything is working so far, BUT… If on on Parts 3-8 on the Virus and I turn some knobs like Amp Envelope Attack, the OTs sequencer starts. While further rotating the Attack knob, the OT will change active Tracks and change a lot of other paramerts in the currently active audio track. And on these Tracks, Midi Learn via the CTRL1+2 is not possible, but is working on the parts using channel 11-16.
I do use the Launch Control XL to do the levels and muting-stuff

Any suggestions how to get rid of this? Need more Info?

Thx in advance.

#2

Why are you send circuit and virus midi back to OT? Just curious as it seems strange to do that when OT is master for these devices.

#3

To be able to use the Midi Learn Function and to record/automate their changes.

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#4

I was afraid to have a virus in my Ot. :grin:
I’m quite sure your Virus is sending one of these CC :
59 | Note on (0=C-1, 127=G9)
60 | Note off (0=C-1, 127=G9)

Maybe you can set all audio tracks midi channels to off.

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#5

You should compare the midi-implementation charts of OT vs Virus.

The OT reacts on many CCs, see OT manual Appendix C. If the Virus unintentionally sends CCs to the OT and the OT-audio section uses this as control-input … there you go :wink:

Check the OT “receiving” channels and the Virus “send” channel too. You can also prevent, that the Virus sends all those CCs … what you need is some kind of “midi-filtering”.

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#6

I’m using the Faderbox for controlling levels and stuff… this won’t work when switched off. Can the OT be tought NOT to respond to these messages?

@SoundRider Yeah… so maybe that’s a case to make use of my old Raspberry V1. If I had the time for that ^^
The Virus in sequencer mode sends on the part’s channel. so this happens on channel 1-8, no matter what global channel is set in the TI…?

#7

You can at least set the OT to neglect start/stop midi from external devices and AFAIK you can also make the OT ignore external CCs.

#8

Did you check if the problematic CC is CC59 ?
If you can, don’t use that knob or filter it with a midi processor.
It is sent to autochannel ?
You can’t disable only one CC in Ot, nor start/stop function with midi notes control (CC59 act as notes).

#9

ok so i just checked my Midi Settings in the OT:

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going to investigate which message messes with me in a bit.

#10

Not sure but try with CC Direct connect on.
This function always confuse me.

#11


that’s what midiox says…

#12

What is plugged in midi ox? OT ?
Tried to plug virus in it, turn only the problematic knob.

#13

in OX, I listen to the Mergers output. so this is what happens when I turn the Amp Env Attack

#14

B4 3B = Cc59 channel 5 as I supposed. :wink:

#15

Is there anything one can do to avoid that? and also on some other knobs…

But this only happens on the audio-tracks, the upper channels are fine. that’s what I cant get my head around.

#16

Can you use upper channels?

#17

as I said, 11-16 are fine. 9 is OT’s Autochannel so I do not use it and 10 is beeing used by the drum part of the circuit, so I leave that, too.

#18

So it would be ok with 11-16?

#19

works, yeah. but beeing restricted to six voices when I planned with eight is… yeah, Guess I’ll have to arrange myself with that.

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#20

Buy a DIGITAKT to add 8 channels ! :grin:

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