I have great expectations on Osmose as well.
I remember saying to Emilie Gillet that she should make a keyboard, poly version of Elements+Rings.
Also, the general use of MPE should lead to great expressive synths.
Yes they can ā¦ examples from the past ā¦
- Jupiter 8
- Matrix 12
- Prosynth
- some otheres as well
I would say ā¦ not enough demand in the market.
IMO the way of Oberheim (Matrix, Prosynth) is āonlyā to allow each voice to have its own patch and that voices can be combined to have polyphony. Maybe this isnāt even a big cost factor.
This seems like the opinion of someone who doesnāt understand technical development, and has a degree of entitlement that doesnāt fit the circumstances theyāre commenting on. Iāve seen you post all sorts of useful wisdom 'round this site so Iām surprised by your comment.
MIDI 2.0 was formally announced Jan 2020. I wasnāt clear if you were aware. You might be saying āwe should have gear using it alreadyā, which sounds reasonable.
Weāre still using MIDI because itās very good. Tech specifications donāt typically last 30 years unless they do their thing well. Personally Iām amazed itās doing so well. Think of how smart the people who made it were that their work supported an two entire industries (music sales, and the gear used to make it) for 30 years. How much wonderful music has been created helped by MIDI 1.0? None? Some? More than you can listen to in your lifetime?
Iād say it was a successful specification.
Haha I think youāre the first thinking this.
MIDI was great. 2.0 is at least 20 years overdue. Think of it as USB 1.0. It was grear back then. But you wouldnāt want to transfer anything larger than a ZIP drive with it nowadays
Inventions follow needs.
You can probably āfakeā the āevolving envelopesā idea already: take the sound you want to hear evolving over time; divide it into sections with four āslopesā each; set up two or three patches of the same sound, with slightly differing envelopes/behaviours to match the four slopes; trigger them in a sequencer.
If enough people make music this way, eventually manufacturers will make gear that simplifies it.
True. But USB 4.0 is shit for the user in every way apart from speed. Evolution can evolve you into a corner you donāt like being in.
No ideaā¦ I like USB 4.
The point is: Most manufacterer are not implementing MIDI āproperlyā (maybe because itās annoying to do so?) - like why isnāt it a standard to habe two-way communication as default to be able to use MIDI controllers which always know the current state of the hardware itās controlling etc. pp. Not to speak of the resolutionā¦ Might be enough for many ā¦ I think itās outdated.
The 2.0 spec only came out last year. Then there was a pandemic. Most of the manufacturers had a pipeline of devices and manufacturing methods already lined up, but the world slowed down, so progress through the pipeline will have slowed. Now we have a chip shortage!
With the spec out, changes will happen, but itās gonna be slower than headlines.
Personally, from reading the headlines, I fear MIDI 2.0ās gonna make things too complicated to be useful quickly. If my work in the web is anything to go by, unidirectional and cyclic control much is easier to work with (React) than two-way (Angular, Knockout, Ember, RxJS).
I donāt know, I kind of agree with @sabana here - Iāve recently acquired a Prophet 5 and in many ways, itās growing into becoming the best poly Iāve ever owned. It doesnāt do nearly as much as my Prophet 12 does, and Iāve known the 12 for some time and the 5 is a new experience, but I wouldnāt surprise myself if about a year from now, the 5 has taken the front position in my rig as the one go to synth I always use.
Thatās like design from 1977 and if nothing had happened between then and now, Iād still be quite satisfied with that.
Yeah, this thread has further validated the MM2 for meā¦ if all polys are the same*, might as well have a compact, affordable, solid sounding poly with 2 timbres, a flexible mod matrix, and decent FX. Itās a poly-GAS killer for me
*obv all polys are not the same
Even when you think virtual analogā¦ the Access Virus is 16part Multi timbral, so is Waldorf Blofeld, but Modal synths are monotimralā¦ on the other hand the new Waldorfs are really nice poly synths, Iridium or Quantum, Kyra. But quite priceyā¦ I would like to see virtual polys that do more than just the typical and offer a bigger variety. Like why canāt the Modal do both Argon and whatever the other one is called And then offer upgrades .