Wish list request-true step sequencer

[synthetica]

I would love to see a mode on the A4 that emulates a true step sequencer. Something like enter step sequencer mode, play a note (via midi or on board keyboard) and automatically advance the trig to the next trig and play another note advance trig, etc. is this possible?

[PeterHanes]

I would love to see a mode on the A4 that emulates a true step sequencer. Something like enter step sequencer mode, play a note (via midi or on board keyboard) and automatically advance the trig to the next trig and play another note advance trig, etc. is this possible?

It is theoretically possible. The MM does it, using [REC] + {STOP] to begin recording.

Why don’t you ask Elektron via a support ticket to implement it?

[hafilax]

Then you need to assign a button to skip a step. I’m not convinced it’s any easier than holding the trig and playing the note. Next trig, next note. Skip a trig, next note.

[synthetica]

Then you need to assign a button to skip a step. I’m not convinced it’s any easier than holding the trig and playing the note. Next trig, next note. Skip a trig, next note.

Yes maybe something like a pressing on the active trig with no midi note inserts a rest and advances to the next trig would work for me. The way it works now just seems counter intuitive to me sometimes, seems like too many button presses to enter a 16 step sequence or the like. I like the record + stop idea to implement this.

[synthetica]

[quote=“synthetica”] I would love to see a mode on the A4 that emulates a true step sequencer. Something like enter step sequencer mode, play a note (via midi or on board keyboard) and automatically advance the trig to the next trig and play another note advance trig, etc. is this possible?

It is theoretically possible. The MM does it, using [REC] + {STOP] to begin recording.

Why don’t you ask Elektron via a support ticket to implement it?[/quote]
Done - ticket entered !

[smokyfrog]

Then you need to assign a button to skip a step. I’m not convinced it’s any easier than holding the trig and playing the note. Next trig, next note. Skip a trig, next note.

Actually you could reassign the Mute which always seemed a waste of time to me. The way trigs work now - i.e. you set up notes on each step but if you then remove the trig, your work is lost - doesn’t seem the best approach. Actually seems left over from drum machine mentality when I come to think about it, where a single default note might have some validity.

Here’s a thought: Why not remember the note value when you remove the trig? So if you add the trig again, the value you entered is still there. Like other step sequencers do. Keep the default note for steps you’ve never worked on. And if you really want to clear the step, hey look, there’s a ‘clear’ function.

[vos]

I would love to see a mode on the A4 that emulates a true step sequencer. Something like enter step sequencer mode, play a note (via midi or on board keyboard) and automatically advance the trig to the next trig and play another note advance trig, etc. is this possible?

That would be lovely !

[vos]

[quote=“PeterHanes”][quote=“synthetica”] I would love to see a mode on the A4 that emulates a true step sequencer. Something like enter step sequencer mode, play a note (via midi or on board keyboard) and automatically advance the trig to the next trig and play another note advance trig, etc. is this possible?

It is theoretically possible. The MM does it, using [REC] + {STOP] to begin recording.

Why don’t you ask Elektron via a support ticket to implement it?[/quote]
Done - ticket entered !
[/quote]

[toot]

Here’s a thought: Why not remember the note value when you remove the trig? So if you add the trig again, the value you entered is still there. Like other step sequencers do. Keep the default note for steps you’ve never worked on. And if you really want to clear the step, hey look, there’s a ‘clear’ function.

I’m into this idea.
My cat has a habit of walking on and therefore deleting newly formed melodies and plocks.

[smokyfrog]

[quote=“smokyfrog”]Here’s a thought: Why not remember the note value when you remove the trig? So if you add the trig again, the value you entered is still there. Like other step sequencers do. Keep the default note for steps you’ve never worked on. And if you really want to clear the step, hey look, there’s a ‘clear’ function.

I’m into this idea.
My cat has a habit of walking on and therefore deleting newly formed melodies and plocks.[/quote]
It doesn’t matter so much to me these days as I use my A4 mainly as module, driven by an external sequencer. It comes alive in ways I never found possible with A4’s own.

[avantronica]

Here’s a thought: Why not remember the note value when you remove the trig? So if you add the trig again, the value you entered is still there. Like other step sequencers do. Keep the default note for steps you’ve never worked on. And if you really want to clear the step, hey look, there’s a ‘clear’ function.

certainly offers an improvement over the current behaviour, particularly if a trig gets removed by accident

[PeterHanes]

… The way trigs work now - i.e. you set up notes on each step but if you then remove the trig, your work is lost - doesn’t seem the best approach. Actually seems left over from drum machine mentality when I come to think about it, where a single default note might have some validity.

…

Nicely put.

Elektron’s entire sequencer paradigm is left over from drum machine (Machinedrum) mentality!

That’s why I love the MD, OT, and (probably) AR so much more than their synths. (It’s also a design issue for most groovebox-style instruments.)

I’m very interested to see whether their next hardware product will have a different form factor.

(Sorry for straying a bit off-topic.)

It would be interesting to know why only the MM has step sequencing.

[vos]

[quote=“smokyfrog”]Here’s a thought: Why not remember the note value when you remove the trig? So if you add the trig again, the value you entered is still there. Like other step sequencers do. Keep the default note for steps you’ve never worked on. And if you really want to clear the step, hey look, there’s a ‘clear’ function.

I’m into this idea.
My cat has a habit of walking on and therefore deleting newly formed melodies and plocks.[/quote]
LOL
if this is implemetend she can write sequences for you

[RoyShade]

Here’s a thought: Why not remember the note value when you remove the trig?

God yes. I usually try to stay on topic but I’ve never heard this put so well or hear anyone else really complain about it. This behavior stifles experimentation and leads to lost work when you think you are doing one thing but you’re in the wrong mode and delete your steps.
There is a track save but it’s temporary. Why oh why is it temporary?
I’ve owned every machine and let them go except the a4 because of how counter productive this behavior is. Even drum machines let you revert to saved.

[clunky]

“dumped” great features

sid mode arp> mnm,
p-lock arp> ot
mix lfo>md

none are on the later machines, and im sure there are more

to me, it makes elektron seem a little backwards

[Anfim]

Here’s a thought: Why not remember the note value when you remove the trig?

God yes. I usually try to stay on topic but I’ve never heard this put so well or hear anyone else really complain about it. This behavior stifles experimentation and leads to lost work when you think you are doing one thing but you’re in the wrong mode and delete your steps.
There is a track save but it’s temporary. Why oh why is it temporary?
I’ve owned every machine and let them go except the a4 because of how counter productive this behavior is. Even drum machines let you revert to saved.

Ditto!! Plus, it would open up some big performance potential in that you could freely rearrange a full page of trigs into various different melodies by turning trigs on and off. Actually, i’m basically describing mute trigs, but this would be a lot faster and more intuitive… There’s some measure of anxiety associated with knowing that if you double tap a trig all of its note and plock data is gone.