I don’t believe it’s that simple. I’m not implying that medication for ADHD doesn’t work but in general ppl are very willing to get on meds. We see it everywhere these days and for many it is the first option they’ll try. My point was and is that it should be the last thing on the menu.
Also many ppl sell or trade their ADHD meds for weed or other substances as it’s basically v high quality amphetamine, so that in part justifies the rigorous screening IMO.
They ain’t that good.
Nothing a couple of redbulls and half a pack of Sudafed couldn’t compete with.
You are somewhat right though. Enough knobheads have decided ADHD meds will turn them into Bradley Cooper that they do command a decent price on the drugs market these days. The knock on effect of that is more screening for genuine cases, more stress for people already being put under undue stress by a system that doesn’t really want to accommodate their needs in the first place.
Yes, I’ve experienced multiple burnouts. In my case they’ve usually been triggered by toxic work environments, anxiety and/or financial stress. I’m better as spotting the early warning signs these days but after a recent, sudden incident, I got prescribed an SSRI and am seeking an Autism assessment. IMHO the masking required - for a neurodivergent person to function in a neurotypical world - takes its toll and can definitely contribute to burnout.
Just wanted to say hi to my people. Diagnosed last year at 38.
There is some dangerous and unfounded stuff being posted in here.
Introduction of ‘people flog them to students’ talk.
Last resort only for meds.
Burnout a construct and not a real thing
The first contributes to stigma by saying it publically, anywhere.
The second - prove to me that medication isn’t the best available treatment for MOST people’s condition (and yes - it is a condition, regardless of if society helps us or not with its structures)
Burnout is real - it’s an acute reaction to chronic stress.
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Hi - exactly the same age as me when I was, diagnosed last September.
The struggle is real, and I’m still adjusting to the knowledge.
Yeah. Obviously I would like ppl to get the meds they really need but as there are so many who decide to abuse the system by selling them I understand why they don’t give those for anyone just like that.
Where are you based?
I might be naive but not sure that’s much of an issue in the UK.
My meds probably wouldn’t be that appealing for abuse either - slow release and can only be activated through ingestion.
Either the speed in Finland is really shit or you have some really good Ritalin salesmen.
I think it’s the fact that my friends are likely getting ripped off.
I’ve never been into speed really so my estimation might be wrong too.
Absolute nonsense.
I know speed, for my sins.
By that logic Elvanse should absolutely smash me. It’s just not how it works.
Like I said - dangerous or unhelpful misinformation
You have the right to your opinion.
I agree with you that that kind of talk wont help anyone so I decided to delete that comment.
It’s my understanding that most of the people abusing ADHD meds without a prescription are doing so in the mistaken belief that it will improve their focus/concentration or in some other way cover up for their lack of intelligence.
I confess I’m a bit of a mash head and I know a lot of mash heads. I e never known anyone take ADHD medication either recreationally or as a substitute for (much better and probably a lot cheaper) amphetamines. I’m not saying that there aren’t people doing that, or that people misusing ADHD drugs they haven’t been prescribed isn’t a problem, but I don’t think it’s a problem on a scale or severity that warrants any level of extra hurdles for prescription of drugs for those that need them. Especially when you consider how doctors in the US (and increasingly in the UK) are giving out far more dangerous drugs like sweets.
I see. What kind of sweets in particular?
I definitely feel that ADHD fueled my GAS, because I would get a new box, sit down with some YouTube tutorials to try to learn the basic workflow, then forget everything I learned and not have the patience to sit down and relearn it - or just get distracted by some new purchase, until I ended up in a place where I didn’t know what to learn first.
I think my biggest mistake was not taking notes on the tutorials I was watching. Sometimes I would even passively listen to tutorial videos on YouTube while I was doing something else like cooking dinner. I think that’s also big mistake, because if you ever do want to sit down and watch the tutorial “for real” with your gear in front of. you, the video is already a little stale because you’ve already heard it.
I think the problem has to do with personal knowledge management, and I started diving into software tools like Notion and Logseq. I think they’re perfect for helping you learn your gear because they enable you to consolidate all sources of knowledge (i.e. PDF manuals, YouTube videos) in one place, along with your notes. And what’s really cool about them in the music production context is that you can build a sort of personal wiki to link up different concepts.
Yep, it’s disgusting.
One of my kids had a emergency appendectomy a few years back. Doc prescribed all sorts of pain meds. We where so diluted from everything in the moment we probably would have hand fed them to him.
Thankfully the pharmacist pulled us aside and said in no way should we give them to a teenager.
Interesting … I use trello for similar purposes. FWIW, I now consider that I’m borderline ADHD or ADD. Certainly don’t have a lot of the issues talked about here, but from what I’ve read about executive function and self-regulation, I think I’m affected.
Cake.
It’s a made up drug.
It falls victim to also being an overbroad assumption and oversells the existence of broad “solutions to ADHD” that we have available to us, work, and are cheap.
I’m fine with concern about the use of amphetamines but meditation, planning, CBT, general coaching are not insta-solutions (not that adderall is either!)
If there was a solid “fix” for the issues inflicted on us by our economic systems and narrow view of a “productive” life, that’d be great. I’ll agree that the ability to find deep focus and interest in what we do would not be as requiring of focus enhancement 
I use strategies as necessary to remain employed with my executive function but I’ve never had anyone throw stimulants at me as a solution. Getting a diagnosis has been thousands of dollars out of pocket, my insurance doesn’t cover that. Even getting an ADHD-positive licensed therapist has gotten me 0% coverage and I’m going to have to resubmit my superbills as neurosis.
When I was younger, the same narrative of “everyone is getting medicated, why can’t we let kids be kids?” was used by my mother to ignore the suggestion that my behavior and function could be a sign of what they understood to be ADD at the time. I don’t blame her, but I wonder what things could’ve been like had I had more support in school.
I do understand nuance here and perhaps the spectrum of ADD/ASD is far different for kids, but as a Gen-Xer being denied care and the most basic of tools, I’ll take the drugs and the “last ditch” is just another high hurdle for me to mount when I’m exhausted.
Hallelujah on the first. It’s as useful as citing dubious crime statistics.
To burnout, it is absolutely real, and it is absolutely correlated to our systems of productivity that want to corral persons into a particular view of “productivity” in corporations and certainly in the sea of “bullshit jobs” divorced from anything a person would enjoy spending their brain on (through a lack of vital societal necessity like content farm blogging, not quite boring like mundane number crunching.)
I think the point is not to minimize the real physical effects of exhaustion but to explain how it’s made worse by the need to extract value from our bodies, in a continued and escalating manner.
Also believe that many to most persons on the ADD/ASD spectrum (there are distinguishing factors but it seems more a polarity to me…) are more acutely aware of how economic policies and profit-over-all drive affects how they are treated at work and by societal systems. Even if their politics don’t allow for criticism of our economic systems from outside of them, there’s a broader awareness that may lack the appropriate language to describe.
Sorry to hear about your situation. I really hope it gets better and that you’ll find the right solution for it naturally or via pharma. I didn’t mean to judge using medication but now that I read my reply again I can see how it can be taken that way.
Seeing so many health problems initially treated with medication these days is depressing, especially with young people. I have been battling CFS type of thing (it’s such a shitty and vague diagnosis I’m not even willing to use it fully) for about 8 years and at every turn I was offered all kinds of anti-depressants and other shit, to remedy the symptoms which solves nothing. I feel a deep distrust in doctors and I know the game the bad ones play with a straight face. It’s just business.
About two years ago I moved back to my old hometown, started eating properly, ditched porn and social media, started to slowly dance to all kinds of ambient stuff and made slow progress until it all went away. I had already accepted that my life is like that of an 90 years old man. To be able to go shopping groceries and not crash out of exhaustion feels unreal.
Last year my co-worker asked me if I have ADHD and I replied that maybe. She told me that these kind of absolute physical fatigue problems are ofter times related to ADHD. Not sure about that but it could be.