Analog 4 CV out - envelopes fast enough for kicks?

[yentz]

Hi,
I just saw, that the A4 also allows Envelopes to be sent through CV. Did anyone try using those for making kicks (cv 1 to vca and cv 2 to pitch)? I am using maths for it at the moment but being just a decay stage basically they are somewhat limited in terms of how the sound decays. Are the A4 envelopes as fast as maths?

[warpigs330]

I can’t say from personal experience as I have never used the analog 4, but technically speaking there is nothing which would keep them from being as snappy as they are internally. Midi usually has smoothing on it to keep from getting jagged noises, so this often effects the snappyness of midi envelopes, but CV has no such limitation.

[yentz]

So is the cv out envelope exactly the same as the internal ones? They seem fine to me.

[warpigs330]

I might be wrong, but I believe they are using cv internally to control the analog parts, so there shouldn’t be a difference between using it internally and using the CV out. Like I said I have never used the analog 4, so I can’t say specifically, they might be doing something weird to the cv output but I wouldn’t expect that.

[PeterHanes]

@yentz

Did anyone try using those for making kicks (cv 1 to vca and cv 2 to pitch)?

Previously on Elektronauts:

CV outs back into Inputs or Expression input

Hello! http://www.elektron-users.com/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=28&func=view&id=213870&catid=9&limit=10&limitstart=0 Anybody using this trick? Have been making some sounds out of it but feel it’s a bit hard making a solid kick. Soundcloud links very welcome! Walktroughs as well! Anselmi around still?

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Here’s the original Elektron Users thread: http://www.elektron-users.com/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=28&func=view&catid=9&id=213870#213870 In case you don’t understand: Basically, just take a cable from a CV out and put it back into the input. Make that CV be a Lin Value. Have an LFO modulate that value and set it to 2k or 1k. The pitch is determined by the speed of the LFO. You can use envelope to shape the LFO or you can use the FADE parameter on the LFO to get it to not be infi…

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When I had my A4mkII, I used that CV-sidechaining trick together with the «CV-kick» trick. I used a fast audio-rate sinewave LFO1 on the CV-track, modulated its pitch with LFO2 configured as a one-shot envelope, and also modulated the amplitude of LFO1 with ENV2. Then I routed that from CV-A back into one of the external audio inputs. Massive kicks on the CV-track without using any of the 4 synth tracks. Finally, I used ENV1 sent as value out of CV-C back into CV-in, to add sinechain-ducking t…

[yentz]

I just tried. It works pretty well. When setting the output range to 0-10 V the VCA ist still a bit open (using mutable instruments veils) so I had to set negative values for the low value.
Don’t need more sounds off the a4 but it is great seei g that the envelopes ard fast enough