Bwax, do you run Native Instruments Replika? I found a serious bug, other users experienced the same issue. It simply crashes ableton from being in your VST folder, basically you need to delete it. If you have it, I almost garuntee that is your issue with ableton. 
didnât read the whole thread however I just finished the first track since buying hardware.
It worked like a charm to record into ableton and make an arrangement out of it.
Also live mixing through overbridge and analog in from my multi face works really well with little to no dropouts.
Canât complain about abletonâŚ
I agree. I think this is the key to getting along with Ableton. Itâs a lot of work setting up your own ultimate template(s). But itâs worth it in the end. Take your time. Write down ideas for it while youâre at school/work.
Right now Iâm making my own ultimate Dub Techno template. Getting all my favorite instruments, presets, groups, racks, fx chains, etc. all ready to jam at a momentâs notice. Iâm even trying to make it easier to go from the writing phase to mixing phase by having most of the levels set correctly, for once! Plenty of headroom.
Getting all this set up, setting up default configurations for softsynths, etc. plus using the new Push 2⌠wow. Very fun and powerful. Makes Push 2 feel like an insanely powerful groovebox.
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^ This +1
My next investment will be an INTEL NUC or a Mac Mini . Iâll install it only Ableton Live and my most used and best supported plug-ins + Push 2 and my A4 + RYTM . All preconfigured nicely . Power on and off the Lutzi .
Because for me there is no difference whether I now turn on my OT / A4 / AR or turn on my DAW+OB . At the end I always need a little preparation to make it sound good. (Imho) [/quote]
Hopefully thereâs a new Mac Mini on the way. I had a very similar thought recently, but the current model was released in October 2014, and Iâd rather wait and see if a new model comes along that can take 32GB of RAM and a faster processor so it isnât pushing obsolescence so quickly. [/quote]
Oh, i thought that they got a re-fresh this year.
But as you said , there is no reason to hurry up 
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http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/#Mac_Mini
Personally, Iâm hoping it doesnât take them too long-Iâd rather not wait until next fall to get a more powerful computer in my studio and free my laptop for general computer (and possible live) usage. The 8 GB of RAM in my 2012 MBP is feeling a little limited at this point.
bare in mind they actually removed the most powerful mac mini from their line-up last time around⌠so looked like it might be aimed more at non-power users⌠but perhaps they will reverse that decision/direction.
I picked up an 8 core Xeon 2.8ghz Mac Pro this time last year on eBay for $300 shipped.
Add a bit of ram and an SSD with PCI-e/SSD 6gbps interface for a couple hundred more and it will blow the pants off the fastest Mac Mini.
Sure, Xeons and C2Ds are said by Elektron to not be officially supported (yet) for Overbridge, but aside from some wonkiness from my Apogee Duet 2, Iâve had no issues with mine running Overbridge with 2x Elektrons.
Ever since you posted this youâve got me looking at buying a used Mac Pro. Thinking the 2012 models might be a good place to look for a machine that wonât become obsolete too quickly but also wonât break the bank. Thinking maybe something with a 3.3 ghz processor and 32GB RAM, but Iâd like to invest in a workhorse that will hopefully see me through the end of the decade and canât help but wonder if even that much power might be a little long in the tooth by then.
Ever since you posted this youâve got me looking at buying a used Mac Pro. Thinking the 2012 models might be a good place to look for a machine that wonât become obsolete too quickly but also wonât break the bank. Thinking maybe something with a 3.3 ghz processor and 32GB RAM, but Iâd like to invest in a workhorse that will hopefully see me through the end of the decade and canât help but wonder if even that much power might be a little long in the tooth by then. [/quote]
Depends what you want to accomplish by the end of the decade. Itâs hard to envision which processor heavy plug-in or application will demand our desires then.
For me, with 8 cores, I can safely run large projects including multiple Reaktor ensembles at 44.1khz.
I have no desire or need to work at sample rates beyond that, so I could easily run this machine into the next decade.
Also, I take time to test and weigh the benefits of software that taxes the CPU heavily, often choosing tools from developers that not only sound great but are more efficient than their competitors. (Waves API 550, for example)
Gobs of RAM, a 64bit boot rom, and an SSD with 6gbps PCI-E controller will allow me to use at least the next Mac OS 10.12.x, though it is doing fine in 10.9.5. It boots in 10 seconds with a Live 9.5 and Overbridge template fully loaded 6 seconds after that.
Really the only pitfall with the 2008-2012 Mac Pro silver towers is the lack of thunderbolt.
My previous 2006 Quad gave me 8 years of service before I replaced it, and it is still serving a friend of mine, albeit in 32bit Snow Leopard land.
Thanks for the links . I also hope that they at least upgrade to Skylake .
The sooner the better .
I can imagine I should make a perfect template, and I can imagine it is possible, but I can also imagine I will keep on spending time on optimizing the template, in stead of making music.
for me, to focus on making music, I like not to open ableton at all. Just for my own focusâŚ
And⌠I love it not to open my computer.
Some people here suggest to buy a better computer. I have a mbp quad core 15â.
But I must admit, If I prefer not to open a computer at all, I should have known that Ableton is not the solution for me.
Also, check out Evermacâs Compare tool for comparing various Mac Pros multicore performance, especially the silver towers, as there were some anomalies between the BEST options of one year compared to the GOOD/BETTER options of later years.
IMO, the sweet spot for cost/performance ratio with the most room to grow is in the 2010 12 core 2.66ghz.
Itâs 62% faster than the 2012 6x3.33 for multi core performance, and only marginally slower (15%) in single core performance. Theyâre both tagged as Mac Pro 5,1.
GPU, Ram speed, and system bus speed are equal, though the 2010 12 core has a higher ram capacity (128GB vs 48GB)
They cost about the same too, around $1500-$1600 in good condition on eBay with 16GB ram.
And in two years theyâll probably be $500 less.
Itâs also worth noting how great these silver tower processors compare to the newer 2013 black cylinder models. With the 2010 12 core in multi-core (DAW) operations performing twice as fast as a $2500 refurbished 3.7ghz Quad, and 25% faster than a $3400 refurbished 3.5ghz 6 core.
Though disk performance certainly favors the 2013+ models, digital audio production doesnât really need more than the 450-500MB/sec that a 6gbps SSD on a PCI-E 2.0 bus provides.
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Also, check out Evermacâs Compare tool for comparing various Mac Pros multicore performance, especially the silver towers, as there were some anomalies between the BEST options of one year compared to the GOOD/BETTER options of later years.
IMO, the sweet spot for cost/performance ratio with the most room to grow is in the 2010 12 core 2.66ghz.
Itâs 62% faster than the 2012 6x3.33 for multi core performance, and only marginally slower (15%) in single core performance. Theyâre both tagged as Mac Pro 5,1.
GPU, Ram speed, and system bus speed are equal, though the 2010 12 core has a higher ram capacity (128GB vs 48GB)
They cost about the same too, around $1500-$1600 in good condition on eBay with 16GB ram.
And in two years theyâll probably be $500 less.
Itâs also worth noting how great these silver tower processors compare to the newer 2013 black cylinder models. With the 2010 12 core in multi-core (DAW) operations performing twice as fast as a $2500 refurbished 3.7ghz Quad, and 25% faster than a $3400 refurbished 3.5ghz 6 core.
Though disk performance certainly favors the 2013+ models, digital audio production doesnât really need more than the 450-500MB/sec that a 6gbps SSD on a PCI-E 2.0 bus provides.[/quote]
You da real MVP 
Seriously, thanks. This gives me a lot of info to work with. Now I just have to decide if itâs unwise to sell some gear to buy an older computer.
If you move forward with buying a Mac Pro 12 core, be sure youâre getting an actual 2010 5,1 on eBay and not an upgraded 2009.
You can tell because the 5,1 will have firewire 800 ports only, and 1333mhz speed RAM.
Example of 2010:
Example of upgraded 2009:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-Mac-Pro-12-core-2x-2-93ghz-X5670-32GB-RAM-640GB-HD-A1289-GT120-MB535LL-A/111850886498