There have been no updates for the KS37 since mid-21, which was the only update to fix a few bugs on the original firmware as far as I can see.
unfortunately, this is symptomatic of the marketâŚ
the mass market just wants âmore featuresâ , quantity over quality, âflexibilityâ over usability.
this makes it âeasyâ for Behringer⌠they just take a design, and add some features.
I think one of the delights of Keystep and Keystep Pro, was their focused designâŚ
particularly the KSP, aimed at a sequencer for keyboard players, with plenty of IO.
the problem with just adding features is you lose that focus!
putting the âmoralsâ of Behringer cloning to one side,
the issue its muddying the waters, focusing on mediocracy, jack of all trades master of none
⌠and unfortunately, this will influence other designers as they try to place new products in a crowded market (and try to counter FOMO)
and Im sorry to say, but YouTubers play a part in thisâŚin their constant GAS fuelling videos.
Loopop illustrated this when reviewing the Squarp Hapax (and iirc, OxiOne) , giving a âconâ that it didnât include a sound engineâŚ
when did a dedicated sequencer have to include a sound engine?
dont get me wrong, I love Loopop, and in fairness, his point is:
at that price point you can get a full groove box that includes a sequencer.
but, it devalues, the idea of focus, specialisationâŚand frankly different market segments.
(if you have lots of synths, often you dont need âyet anotherâ synth, you need a sequencer)
of course, all singing , all dancing products have a place.
if you are buying your first instrument, then its cool to have a sequencer with synth engine.
but lets hope this doesnât kill off the market for more focused products.
To see them side by side like this makes me sad.
Ita like comparing a baby with the Eraserhead baby*
*- oddly enough, thatâs the second Eraserhead comparison Iâve made in a week. I donât know why
Masterclass of comedy right here
The keys on the knockoff arenât evenly aligned in that side by side picture. Itâs just not visually pleasing overall.
yeah I noticed that immediately, what a horrible execution, reminds me of the time when homer simpson built a car
I suspect possible photoshopping âŚ
It looks to me like if that ring of LEDs around pitch continued, then theyâd collide with the white line ?
Of course, I may be wrong and if that âpitchâ is actually chromatic scale, then you would only need a few more LEDs, not a full ring.
Look again. You can see the unlit LEDs on the right. Theyâre close, but still fit. The angle of the view is misleading.
This may well still be a render from the engineering design â but iâd doubt theyâd need bother with Photoshop.
If I squint really hard at my monitor, I can just about make out something that fits with your observation ⌠you may well be right.
Their original post did say something about it being a functional prototype in a 3D printed case.
Behringer should have called it the StepKey.
Shows a lack of confidence that they wouldnât go the whole way in their homage to Arturia.
That said Iâve as much objection to competition in music electronics as I have when my neighbourhood budget bakery also starts to make croissants and the overpriced bohemian shop next door starts to get upset.
Iâd love to hear a demo. If itâs four voices, with a filter, and chorus and reverb, it would be useful, to quickly put something together, and then connect it up to other gear to finish something. They added two more drum outputs compared to the KSP to a total of ten.
Still wonder if there are drum sounds for the internal synth, even simple place holders.
i guess if you have invested in the behringer modular fest then this is the next thing on the list and would be very useful
Anyone know what the âAuto CVâ output in the Drum output section is, or is for ?
Something for ducking ???
Andertons gonna have a busy year trying to shill all this janky behringer shit (if it ever comes out)
At this point I honestly just think this shit is some weird marketing campaign where they can always get their names on forums. Release pictures of products that look controversial and people talk about them and obviously thereâs people that donât like them but there seems to be (honestly an oddly large amount) of people that support them.
But thereâs no way releasing this quantity of items is realistically good for business, I just donât see it. At some point they are competing with themselves.
Auto CV like a Sum all drum triggers.
inspired by mutables Grids
If Behringer was going for an OP-1f, that would be a good analogyâŚ
Arturia doesnât really fit the description though.
With all the resources of Music Group, the thing they should really invest in is a solid R&D department. And talented creative people that can come up with decent names.
Project names, and even product names, are fluid at Behringer. ( My latest post in the Gear in Progress thread, is another name change, and some nice engineering changes too. ) So i donât put much stock in the current name, this is a long way from a living product.
As far as it goes, the name is descriptive, and shows a product intent, that distinguishes this. Itâs a groovebox / key-controller so the name fits in that sense. The printing on a case and product box can change very, very late in the design, ( iâve done that on projects myself ) and is one of Behringer corporationâs central ways of working. Create a straw-man, measure reaction and then adjust. Itâs called open design.
I wouldnât fault Behringer synths on product engineering though. On innovation â that focus is often lacking. But this one is much more innovative, when compared to the Swing.
NOTE : Judging from the way the LEDs are lit in the picture, iâm presuming the filter and effects parts are later additions to the design, and probably have a fair amount of work left to do. Given Behringerâs engineering practices though, they will be able to pull over already designed component parts from other designs and incorporate those.