Can Elektron please start selling MachineDrums again?

I think EURO was a little stronger. The EUR and USA price was 699 or 749.

I remember paying 699 CHF for my monomachine direct from Elektron and 700 CHF slightly used for MDUW just after they were sold out, about a month after.

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At the end of the day, I think a lot people just want more digital drum and synth engines and maybe digital grit from Elektron boxes. From the current lineup I think the answer is still syntakt+octatrack

Syntakt has introduced SY Toy, SY Bits, SY Swarm, Snare Vintage and CP Vintage as digital voices. I think once we see more drum engines and hopefully fx added, people can make better judgements about where it stands compared to Machinedrum. Digital drum machine/synthesis is a glaring gap in the lineup otherwise. Some people have noted that it could benefit from either/or more MD crunch or more ND2/3 punch . Hopefully in a future update we’ll see more machines that add a little more in this department, I’m pretty sure we’ll see at least a few.

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So…

As great as the MD is, for those that don’t have one or have had one, and day dream about it…yes it’s awesome…BUT…

…yes there is a but. I read endless posts about this box lacks this feature or that. Get your hands on an MD and you will feel constrained. A lot of the COOL features Elektron have added to the new boxes are not there. Another but, it’s kinda what makes it what it is. Makes you werk for what you’re after.

I personally think if the MD was reborn, the flavour would be gone. It may be more usable, have more of the new tricks. But it wouldn’t be the same. Who’s to say that it wouldn’t be a new classic…dunno, could be even better, it could also have people disappointed like they are with the TRs :man_shrugging:t5:

Perhaps looking to make a new classic is the better path? Roland SH-4D for example. One quote I read that was funny “perhaps the first thing Roland did that won’t be one Bad Gear” or something to that effect :rofl:

Anyways forward not backward.
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The SH-4D still has classic Roland samples and emulations though. It’s like if MD machines were emulated on new machines for the Syntakt. Not a perfect comparison, but both machines would have new functionality with some classic sounds present.

Not that I think MD machines on the ST will ever happen.

I feel like the demand and price for MDs will taper off as soon as someone brings out a fully featured, relatively affordable digital drum synth/machine with novel engines. Essentially a Volca Drum Pro or similar.

The MD is certainly fantastic and it does what it does brilliantly. It just doesn’t do quite a lot of other things.

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I dont deny the current prices are stupid. :man_facepalming:t6:

its out of control

Obi-Wan understood the MD and MnM:

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MCL essentially uses SYSEX to do so, isn’t it ? I may use a midi processor to map CCs to machines / kit changes with SYSEX.

What to you mean by slot system ? +Drive only ?

fully featured, relatively affordable digital drum synth/machine with novel engines.

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Referencing the fact they’ve hidden a dual-layer drum synth in there and it’s reasonably affordable.

Ok, that’s a cool feature… but I’d say that’s quite a stretch from a fully featured drum machine with novel engines, isn’t it ?

It’s missing a lot of things. Separate outputs for a start. That’s why I said “closest”.
Have removed my reference to the SH because I realised I actually can’t be arsed having arguments on the internet.

I was so mad when Korg revealed the Drumlogue for this reason, I was expecting a Volca Drum Pro… This little box is really crazy for the price and could be so much more…

Elektron used to make boxes with 12-bit voices and fx that were really crunchy, flexible, and numerous . I firmly believe this is what is missing, all these threads would stop if that was in the lineup. A reissue is definitely off to the table, but the heart of the matter is the sounds. Because the experience sans sound is all there on the new boxes, and better.

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I actually strongly disagree. I just recently bought a monomachine after spending years with the other elektron devices. So far what makes it unique and interesting to me is the creative routing and cross track triggering. Being able to do things like a ducking volume envelope on an effect track that is triggered from a kick drum track. Also things like slide trig’s. So far I have honestly not been blown away by the synthesis at all, compared to the modern devices. The effects are really interesting and lo fi so I can see that, and the distortion sounds amazing, but I feel like the synthesis engines in the syntakt are much more useable and immediate.

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Yes, Slide trigs are a major omission from the digis, i forgot to mention that as something missing from the experience. That’s why i pair my Synakt with an Octa tho. It is in the current lineup and has the creative routing scheme and slides too. All the pieces of the puzzle are there on the roster, besides the 12 bit crunch sound, and numerous machines of many types (neither of these aspects are minor for me though, i admit).

But none of their current devices (maybe the analog, but I’m don’t have any of those) can do anything like proper sidechaining without some hacky workaround, like copying kick drum triggers to an effect track, or midi loopback, or something. What I really want is the ability for one track to influence another. The most simple example is have the volume duck down every time the kick drum hits. Or have the hihat shorten when the kick drum hits. Or just generally have the sounds all interacting with each other. This is very hard to do with their current devices, while the monomachine had track triggering, and the machine drum had LFOs that could be trigged by other channels. The modern stuff doesn’t really have any of that, which is something I would love to see.

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AFAIK MnM slides are unique, different from MD/OT, because the modulation can concern all trigs between 2 slide trigs or something. Sorry for bad explanation, if someone could correct me.

Isn’t it the same as MD/OT (Lofi fx) ?

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Yeah I am trying to figure out exactly the overlap of the MNM and Octa algorithms, so far the monomachine distortion has sounded nicer to my ears, but that might be the money I spent influencing my brain, also it has a lot to do with the input material and the saw swave into distortion into the filter does sound very nice. I need to do some tests though.

Slide trigs - you actually answered this yourself in an old thread;

The MnM implementation is better and opens up more possibilities.

I would be happy with the MD/OT implementation in the Digitone. Slides are sorely missed.

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