Can the Audio Tracks send sequence as MIDI?

[Stickhit]

I think it unlikely that the sequencer does not use MIDI considering that you can use an external MIDI keyboard to program the sequencer and that the A4 and Rytm sequencers are now capable of transmitting MIDI data!

[jefones]

I thought it was rather common knowledge that the elektron internal audio sequencer run on elektron’s own protocol. Just because they have been able to add the very simple function of midi note out on top of what already exist in some boxes doesn’t change that.

[Stickhit]

You can use MIDI data to play the audio/synth engines and you can use MIDI data to program the sequencer.

So Elektron are transforming MIDI data into some other data protocol prior to storing it in the sequencer. Doesn’t sound particularly efficient!

[jefones]

I’m not sure whats to keep arguing. It’s been stated/confirmed by elektron that the internal audio sequencer isn’t run on midi but their own protocol. It has come up in many topics across this board

[PeterHanes]

I thought it was rather common knowledge that the elektron internal audio sequencer run on elektron’s own protocol.

It’s been stated/confirmed by elektron that the internal audio sequencer isn’t run on midi but their own protocol.

I think your statements are extrapolating somewhat from these two posts:

MIDI OUT Confusion

The main issue is that the sequencer on the Four, Rytm and Keys is in a completely different “language” than MIDI. Whether is it difficult or not to implement MIDI, I don’t know, but I do know that it would be very time consuming. We can’t simply re-use old code since the machines are completely different. However, we are well aware that basically everyone want this feature.

MIDI Out Functionality

Yes, that is partly true. MIDI sequencing was never intended. It is also a matter of how the internal sequencer functions - it is not built for MIDI. It is far from trivial to add it, and there are other factors such as program memory and processor cycles that inhibits it. To sum up: It is not a planned addition and has never been an advertised feature.

[gianni]

Just found this thread as I was trying to record 1-9 tracks in my DAW.
In the beginning, I thought it was possible because MIDI notes are sent when pressing any 1-9 buttons.
So sad this couldn’t work because I like to start working drum patterns on the DT and switch to Ableton after.
I wasn’t imagining this limitation before purchasing the DT

Hope Elektron would/could implement this functionally in a future version …

[schematicwizard]

Hi, sorry to necrobump the thread but does anyone here know if this is something that is planned for a future firmware update or overbridge update?

We are using Touchdesigner to generate audioreactive visuals from multiple MIDI instruments, and this really is a game breaker (we are using the Digitakt as our main drum sequencer…)

I am so surprised this feature is still missing, while we can see the triggers from the internal sequencers in Overbridge in real time… I really hope this feature will get enabled in a future release!

[PeterHanes]

Welcome to the forum!

@schematicwizard

does anyone here know if this is something that is planned for a future firmware update or overbridge update?

No-one outside Elektron knows their future plans. Your request is unlikely to be fulfilled.

A known alternative is to use the MIDI sequencer tracks and route them both to external equipment and back into the DT’s audio tracks.

[garf]

you can also copy the audio track’s sequences and paste them into adjacent midi tracks using PAGE+copy/paste (need to be in rec mode)

[natehorn]

@Bankie

IIRC you can assign the sample tracks to be send midi out. It’s in the settings menu somewhere.

I thought I was going crazy as I’ve been trying to get this working on my Digitakt this morning as I’d like to be able to capture the note on/off data to use for sidechaning an external compressor and could swear I’d seen it in the settings.

After scratching my head for an hour I think I worked out why I thought it was possible, because it is possible on the Rytm. If you go into the track settings on the AR there is a checkbox for ‘Send MIDI’ and it does exactly what’s being asked of here.

So I don’t buy the excuse about Elektron using their own protocol for the sequencer or whatever, I think this is just a feature they’ve chosen not to implement on the smaller boxes.

Annoying because it means there’s no way to do what I want to achieve (as there’s also no seperate audio out) without using a seperate MIDI track which isn’t really ideal (and won’t work for trig probability, fills etc.). I was considering working with my Digitakt more because it’s a neat box but this stuff just keeps me coming back to AR.