Hello,
I got my second DN (RMA swapped) and both of them have a very “crackling” or “noisy” filter. Especially the LP filter produces those results. It is not always like that but I got the feeling that the longer I use it during one session the worse it gets.
Has anybody else experienced this? Is it normal and related to the pads/sounds I dial in?
Looking forward for some comments :)!
jingo
Hi, are you familiar with gain staging? It might be the case that you are boosting the signal into the filter resulting in distortion. Try backing of the gain before the filter and see if it helps.
Refering to the manual section 4 the AMP comes after the multimode filter.
But maybe I am not seeing the way how to control the gain before the filter.
When I am back from work, I will try some different settings to reduce the gain.
Thanks for your answer,
jingo
Yeah, Im unsure about the signal path but it was the first i would try.
It could of course be something patch specific.
Any luck?
I wanted to test it, but had not the chance… to much family business since Friday evening… hopefully this Sunday :)… Will report back!
So,
after some heavy testing I come to the conclusion that the crackling effect is depending on the values you dial in / your patch. Most of the time it was related to the number of voices and their unison spread. Lowering the spread and playing with the number of voices gets good results in solving the problem. Also lowering the resonance of the filter can help. Its a combination on said values and also the notes you play… After some try and error I can live with that but would also be happy if Elektron could have a look at my findings… I think I will open a ticket in the next days…
Would you mind posting some values that give you such results ?
Indeed, a ticket should be posted (with such values).
I will try to post some settings this week, so you may try to reproduce this effect.
no Digitone here but in my experience Elektron digital filters can get rather ‘grainy’ in quality, especially as resonance increases and depending on source sound amplitude/spectrum things can often get crackly/noisy-ish - would be very curious to hear an audio sample to see if you’re hearing what I’m thinking of - sometimes seems like certain parts of the feedback delay network for the reverbs can get overloaded and saturate/distort easily as well - sometimes desirable, sometimes not
I will try to create an example and post the corresponding values.
I haven’t had this exact problem, but something to try is isolating your DN, power wise, if you have it plugged in on a power board with other devices, try to make it the only thing plugged in. Additionally, and it sounds weird, but try reversing the AC kettle cord plugged into the power brick, I have found with some instruments that if the AC is out of phase it can do some weird stuff, like give you zaps on metal casing, line hum when connecting multiple machines, etc. Also try using TRS (balanced) audio cables to your speakers/mixer.
Or it could be that you’ve turned up the master distortion and forgotten about it?
I did have some weird noise/cracking the other day which reminded me of what happens when you adjust old mixer pots that have dust on them, which is weird since DN is digital, and very shortly after my digitone froze (with a persistent tone) and I had to restart it. There could be a buffer overrun kind of thing going on, but it’s interesting that you’re able to get it consistently and across multiple machines.
I get this also sometimes with extreme resonance and unison voices - I think it’s clipping - pretty sure turning down output volume fixed it for me so its probably gain from the resonant frequency boosting?
Sorry, late to the party and still no sample upload by me… makes 3 Ave Maria ;)…
Anyway, I have come to the above conclusions. When I turn down the patches volume (outer left control on most windows) the crackling vanishes… seems to be normal then and it also mostly in combination with unison voices…