I’ve set DN to play phrygian chords, locking enough voices (4, but I tried with 8, too) to have a nice effect. Then I play C C# C D# on the DT and it sounds good…
… and then I setup my DT to control the DN over MIDI, and I play live the exact same notes, but the DN fails on allocating the voices on the D#, and it does not play a chord.
A few scales are affected more than others, e.g. locrian and aeolian as often as phrygian, but less often with mixolidyan.
The problem is not the DT. I have the same issue using an external Arturia KeyLab 61 mkII (using MIDI of course).
The problem is associated to MIDI: playing the same chords over Overbridge has no issues, even at very high BPM.
The problem is not the MIDI cable: I have tried a few.
The problem is not playing notes that do not belong to the scale: remember that in the video you could see that I do not have issues playing exactly the same directly on the DN. DN lights up the notes that belong to the scale, you can’t play the others.
How is it possible? Shouldn’t this be an incredible easy task for the two devices? Firmware is the latest, 1.30A for the DN and 1.20A for the DT. I’ve raised a bug with Elektron but I can’t believe I’m first finding this, there must be an easier explanation. Thanks!
It seems strange like a bug to me… Does it happen only with Phrygian scale?
I don’t think it’s a mechanical problem eg. like the buttons are working
Don’t think it could be an electrical problem like a fried circuit board or something like that
it would be odd for only that to not be working yet I don’t know a lot about electronics but I doubt it. only thing left is the firmware or possibly the midi cable?
Anyhow support would be the best ones to let you know what it is.
Thanks @DanJamesAUS the last suggestion was fruitful.
I seems that the issue happens with a few scales more often than with others, e.g. locrian and aeolian are affected as often as phrygian, but I can’t reproduce the issue with mixolidyan! And with the C C# C D# sequence more than, say, C D C E… but probably that depends on the scale, too.
Now it looks more like a software bug triggered by a combination of 1) using MIDI on an external device to 2) play chords on the DN and 3) its voice “allocation” algorithm. It would be great if someone took the time to reproduce it, so to test that I’m not the crazy one
I’m not sure what root note you’ve set (C, I assume) but could it be something to do with playing a note outside of the scale? I don’t have a DN anymore otherwise I would test it for you. But maybe when receiving a ‘wrong’ note not in the scale, the DN shifts it to one that is available (or it’s playing it chromatically instead) and is ignoring the voice allocation? What happens when you play each note chromatically one by one? Do certain notes (the ones in the scale) produce chords, while others (not in scale) are only a single note?
Hi @craig yes the root note is not an issue. In the video I shared you can see that I am playing the exact same note sequence (C C# C D#) on the DN directly has no issues, with both devices in chromatic mode playing the same keys (9 2 9 3). Thanks for the idea.
It took me a little while to reproduce, but I can confirm, you’re not the crazy one.
The exact same problem is there with the old 1.21 firmware.
It’s weird that nobody found this before.
My guess is that most people use chord mode with the internal sequencer only, so it slipped under the radar.
