I have a bunch of old E-MU romplers (CS) but I am gasing at a mc-707 right now.
I was wondering if selling my E-MUs for the MC-707 I would regret any sound I can make with the E-MU.
I have following E-MU roms : Planet Earth, Rob papen TSCY and Beat Garden, Vintage collection, Protean drum, World expedition, X-Lead, Pure Phatt.
So question is, can I just replace all that with a Zen-Core engine and call it a day ?
Is Zen-core like waaaaay better than that ?
I realize that there’s a 30 years of technology gap there so it must sound much better.
Thanks for helping if you have experience with both !
Personally I love the particular sound of some old rompers (pads mainly) and I don’t think they can be replaced entirely. But if you’re no longer feeling inspired by them I’d say go for it. Roland sounds have a different vibe to EMU stuff, but you’ll probably find enough of what you need in the 707. Plus, the more modern UI/workflow might be an exciting change.
I vaguely remember reading that some of the old emu ultra samplers you could install those ROMs and copy the raw waveform data, if not the presets. That might be a way to consolidate. Either way, you would want the z-plane filters for authenticity still which would require something e-mu.
Alternatively wasn’t there the E-mu Emulator X or Proteus VX software plugins? maybe that’s a possible option if they can still run.
I used to have a command station fully loaded, as well as a proteus 2000. The Integra, system 1m and Boutiques I have now definitely have more modern sounds with higher definition, but its a different sound, so still won’t be a 1 to 1 replacement.
Yeah use to have that emulator x. Only reason I kept the hardware was for the interface. Couldn’t tell any difference sound wise. Good to know you have integra. I am also concerned about all these nice drum kits I have in these roms. Will I find a replacement for all these percussions and stuff.
Nice selection of ROMs. I have pretty much the same in my Command Station XL-7.
No. you can get a Zen-Core if you want but it won’t be a replacement, any more than a jar of peanut butter replaces a stack of your favorite chocolate bars.
Not better, just different. I haven’t heard any Zen-Core sounds/tracks that are “better” than the Emu ones posted by balma, the Wizard of E-Mu romplers. balma knew every trick in the book for getting sounds out of the E-Mu modulation matrix, Z-plane filters, etc.
fwiw, I have a Roland MC-101 Zen-Core machine. I got it to be a little multi-timbral sound machine. The one drag for me with the XL-7 is it needs some repair, as the slightest bump causes something on its internal board to unseat itself.
Sometimes I wonder if it’s not just that some people prefer lower rate converters and lower definitions. Could make sense to me, why not ? Like, I had a DX7 and even though that you could play these sounds with a software, it wasn’t sounding the same. Not better or worse just different. Different enough that you could prefer one or the other. Also have a nm G1 here and still prefer the sound of that one today versus the G2 that I also had in the past. What I would qualified as more character which is probably just a less defined sound.
I use the Proteus VX on Windows hosted in Reaper all the time. It is a pain, there are some quirks with the UI and saving/loading patches. But the sound is excellent. To me it sounds exactly the same as the XL-7 and PX-7 command stations I have, but has more features, better FX. Its super cool. Also sounds vastly better than the Roland JV-1080 (edit: I have the Don Solaris patches too–which help) to me which sounds like a compressed mp3 by comparison. But this is all subjective. All romplers are cool and useful.
Yeah still some ROMS I would love to have bought (like orchestral one) but I can’t just justify the price nowadays.
Thanks for confirming that, I was thinking it would be like day and night in terms of quality
Good to know too, there are some pads I just love and I am kind of afraid I would miss.
Sorry to hear about your XL-7, I pretty much feel I need to cross my finger every time I start it because of these notorious PSU failure. I actually have 4 ROMS in my CS and 3 in an Orbit 3.
I totally agree that sound wise it was just as good to me that the hardware. I just wanted to have these interfaces even if know that can just sound stupid. And I know I could map that to a midi controller and everything but that wouldn’t help me selling the hardware. If keeping hardware was a rational thing I guess that I would pretty much just have my laptop now