With the new OS (1.30?) you can activate a fill mode, which is used with the newly implemented Trig Conditions - awesome.
BUT: On the AR you can momentarily enter fill mode by pressing the “page” button, only for locking it you need your second hand. On the Octatrack cannot just activate fill mode by holding down the “page” button, you have to reach across 2/3 of the device to reach the up/down arrow buttons.
That way you always need two hands to trigger fill mode - and thats all the hands that i have.
Am i the only one to find this a strange decision from Elektron?
Not strange but only because trig conditions were added late and were not initially going to happen on the ot. Which to me makes how the fill was implemented make sense.
You can try to use one shot trigs instead of the fill condition, this way you have to just press and hold yes (or func+yes). But there’s no way to cue them up like you can with fills.
Arrows are much more convenient for me.
While using the crossfader, I can’t imagine that page combinations.
Hold Yes, and you have FILL with one shot trigs and one finger. Very efficient.
Try with FILL TRC combinations.
I’d like to see it activated just by using page button too, it is these kind of inconsistencies that I find a bit annoying, two handed operations are fine for some things but not for performance controls like fill. Even if the A/B buttons were used in combination with page it could still be easily done 1 handed, and could allow more fill types!
I would love for it to be just ‘PAGE’ or ‘PAGE+YES’ (to lock FILL to on like AR/AK/A4). Often thought the same @dobpoq
Currently it is less spare of the moment as requires two hands, I love that on the Rytm I can just hit PAGE without even properly looking at the machine.
Must be a reason they had to added the two button combo, rather than going with just PAGE?
+1
I’m just starting to use the fill condition - wich, combined with the /FILL condition becomes more powerful than using OST… wish it could be activated with a single button
i like including the occasional 8 bar melody or vocal part … using Trig Conditions i hope is going to awesomely make it possible to sequentially A/B trig two related melody or vocal part loops of 4 bars apiece on alternate passes.
this way, not necessary to use the Scale pattern length feature.
come to think of it, i’m not sure why that is of any great benefit.
other users will surely think of cooler things to do with Fill Mode conditional trig options.
Page button has uses in every mode but track mode and quick mute mode…
Highest note for chromatic mode, page/row select for slice and slot mode, scale change for delay control…
Of course page for grid recording…
Just found out about another annoying fact when using the page button - arrow buttons combination for triggering fill-mode: when you are using the arrangement mode, the arrows are put to use for navigating within the arrangement.
So when triggering the fill mode by holding down page and the up-arrow within a few seconds your arrangement navigator arrow will be at the top of the arrangement, when holding the down-arrow you will be at the bottom.
In my opinion this makes the fill mode pretty unusable whenever you plan to use the arranger. The page-button as trigger and the combination hold page-button/enter-yes release page-button first, then release enter-yes would not cause the same interference.