ctrl-all controls the selected parameter on all 4 internal synth tracks, not the midi tracks.
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Dammit, my retailer lists āQ2 2018ā for availabilityā¦ thatās what, 2+ months from now?
96kHz huh? So does this get downsampled to 48kHz before exiting the DAC? Or can we actually output way above < 20kHz sounds with this one? With proper speakers, might be fun to upset some cats & dogs! Obviously the OB output is downsampled as its the usual 48kHz affairā¦
Iām guessing the 96k is just upsampled processing to keep aliasing at bay? To be downsampled to 48k before hitting the converters & outputs? Even then, the DN will never sound like a āvintageā FM synth, will be closer to ITB FMā¦ Maybe I should hold onto my PreenFM2 a bit longerā¦
One thing I was wondering though, and this has annoyed me to no end in many software FM implementations, I hear distinctive parameter steps & steppyness in the DN videos whenever a param is adjusted. This is annoying to say the least, I hope any modulations/plocking does not exhibit such zipper-noisesā¦
thats a good question indeed but dont think theyre gonna make it without steps. i guess its specially difficult with FM as slight chagnes in the modulalator have already a big impact in timbre.
Yeah, that I know. I used to spend a bit of time tinkering with AAS Tassman (was it version 4? I forget) protoyping all kinds of perverse FM tone generatorsā¦ heh, one of them had 13 operators! and even then I realized that you either need an insane control resolution with some smoothing applied, or you need 2 params for everything (Coarse/Fine). But yknow, I was hoping that since the peeps @ elektron are quite a boffiny bunch, theyād be able to suss it out better than a mere mortal
Ok. So Iāve let the initial disappointment of the DO reveal settle down in my head and given the demos a listen. The thing sounds absolutely fantastic. I can see myself picking one up used down the road when they drop to $500-$600 perhaps. I just canāt justify the limitations (4 tracks, 8 voices, 4 MIDI tracks) at the almost $800 price point. For my needs, this would be more like a fun toy then a ānecessityā in my studio. I donāt use FM sounds all that often, so when I do, I usually just default to FM8.
With all that said, I do really love the smaller size of the DT and DO. I really am holding out hope for a MM/MD hybrid in that format for the next device.
One thing Ive wondered is what if you ctrl-all a filter cutoff but some are hp and some are low pass?
Like you couldnt sweep up the frequencies on all channels(if High passing) if some were on Low pass /notch etc.
Wouldnāt you just end up with a 100% filtered sound then? ie. silence
I think you have to p lock the cutoff value for those you want to remain unchanged. I think Simon mentioned this in cuckooās video when explaining control all.
Not if you only filtered 60-70% up freqs
Thats a good tip if i ever buy into the newer boxes.
@Ess the playlist āDigitone Audio Examplesā is gorgeous, I keep on listening to it and itās a real pleasure.
I would really love to see each track credited, itās a very impressive work, both showing the sounds of the machine and displaying the skill of the producer!
In fact, I donāt recall having already been that much charmed by mere āaudio exemplesā of a new instrument.
I think in one video Simon explains that the FM ratios are quantised for more musical results (if I understood correctly). I think this quantisation is what the āzipper noiseā might be from. It seems to be part of the design. Also changing algorithms on the fly obviously must introduce some steppyness I guess.
This, plus thereās no slide so plocking will naturally sound like a ājumpā. Iām sure parameters like filter freq will be smooth as usual, especially with those hi-res encoders.
Absolutely.
In the other hand, there is a detune parameter to address this need to gradually change a frequency.
Way I see this box, it has not been designed to be the most complete FM synth (for this I think PreenFM 2 is really a beast) but a hands on, immediate FM synth, with which you can carve your sounds pretty quickly.
I consider myself a tourist when it comes to FM synthesis, I do believe Digitone is the tool I have been waiting for that will let me find my way in the galaxy of FM sounds.
This, and Chowningās book, thx @t
hmmm
I guess elektron will never add a āQUANTIZE/LIMIT RATIOSā checkbox to the config, checked by default, like they did with the āLEGACY FX SENDSā on the rytm? One can hope.
Anyways, still hoping that some LFO trickery will enable more in-between ratiosā¦
This kind of āglitchinessā can no doubt be mitigated by subtle use of adsr amp envelope and the analog style post tone generator filter.
Iām going to be spending the next few weeks getting very familiar with every DN demo out there as I eagerly wait. I agree with @LyingDalai, Iāve never heard more enticing audio examples from Elektron before. It is a very beautiful sounding instrument that nails that hybrid sound I always feel like Iām chasing (proudly digital yet organic). Iām really into the sound in this demo right now.
Considering how a ton of wavetables are very similar (if not directly taken) from modulated FM sounds & other complex tones, modulating the DNās āharmonicsā parameter while filtering the oscillators will get very similar results to some classic wavetable synths I think.
Iām up for some kind of AMA deal if thereās interest. Always happy to talk nerdy.