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I was confused by this explanation from the
Manual- dim Orange trig key???
In the ANALOG FX BLOCK ROUTING menu, you can select which tracks, send effects, and the external in, you want to route through the analog FX block (orange [TRIG] key) or directly to the main output (dim orange [TRIG] key).
Yes, if you select the shortcut (Func + FX IIRC) for routing tracks output ⶠanalog FX chain, selection is indicated by orange lit trigs corresponding to the number of the resp. track (just like with green for global track muting and purple for pattern track muting).
I like Kaizen.
With Elektron I really like that they
Those revolutionary things or new seeds happen from time to time but it is not desirable to have this happening every 2 years. Just think how long it took to develop all those special programming techniques for the C64 or Amiga - just because the hardware was locked for so many years, after being revolutionary at first (Amiga esp.).
The digitakt for example, IMO is revolutionary in no way.
It even lacks most of the developments in sampling technology since the late 80s
but (!) it contained
The built in âtonalityâ however, was âjust good enoughâ to make it work and need no other box for the melodic lines. That doesnât mean that the digitakt could not be a little better with transpose (for pitch - it has âtransposeâ for moving trigs in the temporal dimension) or an easier way to edit samples in the box. Or a very simple songmode (just a list of patterns with number of bars/repeats).
However, given all that â the particular setup of the digitakt just works. Direct brain ⶠDT ⶠear chain as with very few other machines. And that was revolutionary. You never know what will be a future classic despite or because of its particular features and limitations (think 303).
Also think plain Midi - it just works well enough. Thank you Dave Smith and Ikutaru Kakehashi!
For me the Syntakt feels like more of a platform than the DN and DT.
At first, I was going to wait, but after hearing what people were creating (which was very diverse IMO) and seeing the loaded PCB, I was in.
My prediction is that the Syntakt is going to age VERY well. Itâs already cool, but tweaks to the machines, and new machines are likely to happen over the next few years. I know the whole âbuy only what something does todayâ angle, but to me itâs crazy to think those updates arenât incoming given how the CCs and machines are set up.
Agreed. But would you buy a piece of gear solely on reading the manual? Never once did I say anything about not hearing it. Itâs all about the sound. That is the point of what I was driving at. OF COURSE upon hearing said gear, reading the manual pre purchase can be hugely helpful.
But I donât think I would buy any instrument without hearing it, based on its manual or specs. THAT is what I was saying.
except a MIDI controller [but thereâs no sound of course] 
I decided to put my DT and DN away for a while to focus on the ST only⊠there is no real learning curve but I donât have enough headspace to deal with too much midi management right now (using the ST together with other gear) and the ST indeed feels like a platform on its own, more like a groovebox⊠really missed something like that since the Yamaha RM1x days 
Did the DT never feel like that for you?
Ah, ok, maybe I didnât read all of the posts thoroughly enough. Was there someone who bought the ST just after reading the manual? Not that this person would end up disappointed in this particular case - but it would seem a rather odd method of making decisions indeed
Although, in the 90s that was kind of common. I remember reading the articles in Keys and Keyboards over and over again and trying to imagine how it would sound by the description of the sound and the features. Later they added CDs, what was very nice of them 
And I made the worst decisions in terms of buying equipment after visiting hardware stores and talking to dealers who knew better what was good for me 
:. So I ended up with that ESI-4000 and Cubase VST 
instead with the MPC2000 
which I initially wanted to buy after reading the articles.
Well pre/early internet makes sense. If the only access you had was a magazineâŠyou made the best assessment you could from articles.
I mean, back then, while trying to find new music, I would buy CDs based on album art and track titles. I felt I was pretty good at determining which I would like. But every now and thenâŠ.OH BOY, some stinkers. 
When I first got the DT it was really new (early firmware) and the sample management was more difficult or I just didnât understand it even after reading the manualâŠ
Later on I got DN because I wanted the DT workflow without the sample management but soundlocking is cumbersome in my opinion and 4 tracks is enough (for example 4ch MOD files but itâs been a while)âŠ
Now I got ST and I guess itâs just wat I wanted all along, 12 tracks with drums and synths 
Whoever made the preset pattern A14 (ruu-batoo) is a freaking genius. Serious hyperlight drifter OST vibes, I love it!
Ya. That one and Space Café are awesome.
Ruin-Batoo is so good.
see guys, I DO like aspects of it
Iâve played that portion of some guys preset patterns vid many times. I wish there was a longer playback of it.
Iâd agree with this. The âmachineâ concept is smart because it makes it very easy for them to add new ones in the future while making it fit into the 8-knobs paradigm.
In that sense, I do think that the Syntakt will be even more interesting in the future. Letâs hope they add a few more tone machines, that could persuade me to buy one after all. 
Model:Cycles has been out for more than two years and hasnât had a single new machine added to it. Could be a while.
cycles is in their budget line tho. u might be right, maybe they wonât release more ST machines tho thereâs a bigger chance of it vs cycles Iâd guess.
agreed could be waiting a while regardless 
I think they added the dual VCO to the Rytm in a later firmware. Not sure how many years after though. I agree though that Maschine concept does make you think there might be more to come, although for now Iâm more than happy with whatâs on offer.
I do love the Cycles. It has fun and instant playability, but all the Cycles sounds have a very muted âtoyâ feel to them. Itâs definitely a sound I like and in some ways reminds me of old Casios. I was concerned that the ST machines would be too similar to the Cycles, but ST has a warmth and richness to its sounds. I was excited to get some nice clean noise, plucky strings and gritty leads out of the ST. The chord and tone machines are a big step up compared to the Cycle equivalents. I say all of this without really including the analog effects, filters or sounds which I will be diving into next.
One could argue that the machines in the Cycles and ST are pretty innovative. Flexible and approachable drum and tone synthesis that doesnât require users to combine, shape and understand manipulating waveforms. Nothing really quite like it out there.
2014/4(?): AR 1.0
2016/4: AR 1.30 new machines
2018/7: AR 1.45 DVCO
so a 2 years span between âmachinesâ updates (4 in case of the DVCO) but one should always buy gear for what it is, not what it might be.
Agreed. I sold my Cycles as I didnât like the sound, but the same machines on the Syntakt sound great. I think youâre right, being able to shape the sound further using the two filters and amp env, then use LFOs makes all the difference.