And aftertouch??
No, not right now
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Any word as to if theyâre planning to implement them in the future?
Any word as to if theyâre planning to implement them in the future?[/quote]
I havent read about anything planned⌠nor can I see into the future, butâŚ
U cant record the fader on the octatrack on the octatrack itself. (unless you play with midi loopback stuff or external sequencer)
U cant record the joystick on the monomachine-keyboard (unless you have external sequencer)
So something inside me says: the joystick on the Analogkeys will be like that⌠non-recordable on the box itself
I could be wrong⌠I could be right⌠its just me assuming things based on past experiencesâŚ
I remember that the reason that the monomachine couldnât do it was that there would be too much data for the storage capacity.
but this is years later - would that still be a reason?
It would so obviously be a great featureâŚ
The joystick is such a central part in how you play the sounds you want to record. They must do it. Itâs inevitable if you ask me. Iâm a strong believer in joystick recording 
What it is is a lot of parameter changes, and it already does record that when you twist the knobs. So Iâd say itâd be pretty straight forward to implement joystick recording into trigs with parameter slides. This way it could be edited too.
⌠To record it at a higher resolution than 16 steps per page though would mean some rethinking. And in the end, to keep the sequencer tidy, I can understand if the team is having a lot of resistance about it. But Iâd really like to record precise movements though.
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being that the joystick is merely modifying the parameters just as you could with knobs (thought obviously not in the same manner), I donât see how that feature wonât make it into an update
perhaps it is just a matter of recording X amount of parameter changes at one time
itâs not that the A4 isnât capable, clearly it has a lot of oomph, itâs a philosophy/clarity thing - i very very much doubt theyâll incorporate those âperformanceâ parameters (beyond velocity) and it certainly wonât be done by parameter slides because that would affect other plocked entries - i originally found the absence of pitchbend/mod/AT recording a bit disappointing but tbh, the wealth of other parameter control options is already exceptional and virtually limitless, given the sequencer will probably never record in-between steps (like it does on say the monotribes) then i donât see it being included any time soon as it would be too steppy - the great thing about the current scheme is that you always have a performance layer on top of your pattern - remember the performance mods happen at a finer resolution than the p-locks can, see it as a bonus that it is setup this way !! i like the current approach, ymmv 
A4? it doesnât have a joystick, this is about the AK
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same engine, same philosophy
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FYI - the joystick just talks to three of the regular parameters on the sound setting page, so itâs no more than a neat/convenient way to address those same parameters - a virtual joystick in Lemur would do the same modding
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same engine, same philosophy
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FYI - the joystick just talks to three of the regular parameters on the sound setting page, so itâs no more than a neat/convenient way to address those same parameters - a virtual joystick in Lemur would do the same modding[/quote]
with the keys, in my opinion, theyâre moving into a sort of new territory, and so their philosophy should also adapt to its new surrounding. Keyboard players will perform and record a lot with the keyboard I think, and the joystick is part of that. Itâs a very different machine in terms of both functionality and who itâs targeted at.
The joystick is altering 15 parameters btw. 5 parameters per page. Itâs pretty great.
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right on cuckoo
âŚand it seems to me they should be able to record those parameter changes in live record modeâŚ
ok, yeah - 5 from bend, east-west - 5 from modwheel, north - 5 from breath, south - 3 parameter âpagesâ is what i meant, same as the A4 !! - they will retain patch/os compatibility - itâs real easy to connect a keyboard to the A4 so it wonât diverge, itâs just more convenient with the AK - whether it ever changes, only elektron can know, the octatrack does record some of these âperformanceâ params but e.g. steppy pitchbend is not so nice (no better than p-locking pitch) and as it stands thereâs nowhere in the UI to host those parameters for editing - you never know, itâs just my hunch - theyâre not gonna support midi âsustainâ for keyboard players any time soon either, but you do at least get a nice hold button on the AK - maybe theyâll diversify and support these performance aspects the with a higher voice count poly but i canât see the AK going that way imho - remember itâs not their first keyboard either - just keep lovinâ it the way it is i say, the folks getting all down because it doesnât midi sequence are missing the point, thereâs a tonne of fun to be had now, make the most of it
somebody must have asked Elektron about this already, wonder what they said âŚ
Still havenât received mine from Sweetwater, but more fantasies emergeâŚ
Can you set the joystick to send out cv? If so then one could, say, record this into a eurorack modcan cv record module for instance, or into some other modules that record in a more limited sense.
If Elektron were to update the OS to allow joystick movement/aftertouch to be recorded by the sequencer, itâd make the Analog Keys an even more compelling package⌠if theyâre concerned with that.
If they were to make an announcement of this being in the plans for the Analog Keysâ future, Iâd cancel my RYTM preorder and order the Keys; thatâs how huge I think this feature would be. Either way, I hope they communicate whether, or not this will be implemented; I have to plan my GAS accordingly 
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Got my analog keys, and am quite enjoying it.
I think that Elektron should answer this very simple question, based on the fact that clearly, recording joystick movements in some capacity would be a very good thing. Is this possible? Is it planned? Why is it a bad idea, etc.
I mean, Iâm kind of sick of this corporate reticence to answer very simple questions.
Why not? Itâs obvious that this is a desired feature.
With the Analog Keys, it feels like it might be time for the Elektron team to start thinking about maybe adding an additional track type optimized for real-time recording of MIDI events.
Traditionally, Elektron has been all about immediate x0x-style step sequencing. I understand why theyâre hesitant about adding something that moves away from that, but it would be absolutely lovely to be able to record exactly what was played, and then be able to go in and make tiny edits just like you can with the event list on an MPC.
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After Touch should be able to be recorded via the AK keys or even a midi keys connected to A4. It really does nothing for my creative process to have to go in and apply after touch and velocity events to individual steps. Basic midi.
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After Touch should be able to be recorded via the AK keys or even a midi keys connected to A4. It really does nothing for my creative process to have to go in and apply after touch and velocity events to individual steps. Basic midi.[/quote]
Couldnât agree more⌠I was realtime recording for the first time last week and I was surprised when my aftertouchinâ wasnât recorded!
I got a response from Elektron yesterday about this. They said that while this is not possible now, it might be possible in the future, and the person agreed that it would be a nice feature.
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