$5/mo or $50/yr is a bargain. Software development is expensive.
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Zenbeats isnāt the greatest DAW by any imagination, but itās cross platform and they are continually upgrading it. Itās what i prefer using with my iPad air2
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This kills my iPad experience.
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Iām excited theyāre making it available.
Iām not excited about the subscriptions. Itās not the individual cost so much as there are too many subscription to keep track of.
It also makes it so this needs to be the main software tool for recording otherwise, itās just throwing money away when not used
Iām sure there are some completely using an IPad for everything. Iām not one of them because I donāt need a mobile recording rig and itās a clunky process compared to the computer.
I imagine this is the future. Might as well get used to it.
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This is great news for live music performers who need their traditional DAW.
On the consumer side, it will be interesting to see how Logic & co. (I assume that the other DAW developers have already been working on an iPad solution) are going to compete with relatively cheaper and less demanding DAW apps like AUM, Loopy Pro and Drambo on this platform.
Yes, Garageband has always been there for free, so why was there still a need for the other apps? Could it be that the smaller form factor would not work so well with a timeline-based workflow?
Moreover, how is all this going to impact the desktop version? Will it benefit from the new features? Will it also move to a subscription-based model? Will its interface become less of a jungle? Isnāt it amazing that, 40 years after the first home computers, we still fiddle around with a wobbly mouse and a non-musical keyboard?
I find an iPad is generally too unwieldy to hold in one hand and operate with the other without some form of case or something for the hand that is holding it - the thumb is always interacting with the screen in an undesirable way. The same goes with resting in on your chest when reclined, the lower end of the screen can get confused.
In fact, the number of times I have accidentally scrolled backwards a year in a thread on discourse while using my iPadā¦
I am somewhat curious how much of Alchemy will make it into the tablet format, and what sort of VST host it might be. That could be interesting, expecially if it will run on older tablets (say, a 4 year old pro). Then again, maybe thatās already doable with garage band - Iāve not tried.
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I always hoped the announcement would come! But I wish it came out before I finished writing the 3rd edition of Logic Pro For Dummies which releases next month. Iām going to have to write a lot of supplemental material - which I look forward to writing!
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ā¦airdropping ipad sketches as logic project folders to ur macā¦sounds like a great ideaā¦
ā¦using logic but all u have is bluetoothā¦sounds like a nightmareā¦
ā¦if cuppertino skips the physical headphone out on their next gen ipads, all this is not the real funā¦
on the other handā¦touch touch and pen controling logic proā¦hmmmm, thatās teasingā¦
and direct sampling via onboard mics is also nice to haveā¦
but end of all days, all this is getting too fancy for meā¦
once bitwig crosses version 6, iāll get me one first and last linux machine and leave all apples behind me, once and for allā¦
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Can someone tell me what the correct way of thinking about this is? Am I supposed to be happy to have a new choice in music making apps, or am I supposed to be opposed to it because itās a subscription planā¦ which is the definitive, correct stance?
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unhappy about subscription is the correct stance
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Happy with more choices is the correct stance.
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I enjoy my music service subscription, and my video game subscription. Why is this one bad?
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Itās hard for me to complain about $5 a month with a free trial. I hate learning new DAWS with a passion, as I feel like wasted mental bandwidth that could be use on creative pursuits, but I will give this a try. I carry a TX-6 and m1 Pad Air in my bag everyday. This is a no brainer.
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Iām the exact opposite. I have a main DAW, but use several other precisely to use mental bandwidth and to be constantly exercising my brain with learning the new systems. But we now know the correct answer is subscription=bad, so please do not enjoy this new app under any circumstances.
I promise I will hate it when I subscribe to it when itās available.
hate is to harsh, just mild unhappiness will suffice
lol
Iāll be looking forward to your thoughts on it
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Copy that
So what is going to be so much better about Logic Pro than Garageband and Cubasis on iPad?
I mean, it is a fact today that you wonāt be able to use all the plug-ins that you like on desktop due to limited processing power and limited plug-in availability. The screen estate is also going to be very limited in comparison. No mouse, no keyboard. Plus, the subscription. Is it all just fugazi?
Maybe it is actually better that it is a subscription, so that if it really doesnāt work for you, no harm has been done?
Itās not bad in itself, but I think the lack of other options is a legitimate concern. I upgrade Live for Ā£150 or so, and that versionās mine. If I donāt want to upgrade next time, because I canāt afford it or I donāt like the changes, or whatever the reason, I donāt lose access to the software, and thatās the key.
And also, itās death by a thousand cuts. You subscribe to Logic, to FCP, maybe you subscribe to Adobe products and Office 365, youāve got a note taking app on your phone, and gradually everything moves to a subscription model where taking a break means losing access, and youāre forced into changes you might not need or want.
I donāt think Apple are likely to fold or make hugely unpopular updates to Logic or FCP, and theyāre asking a more than fair subscription price compared to a lot of other products (for now). Thereās really nothing to complain about except the obligation to subscribe rather than purchase, but thatās enough for me to be out. Which is fine, - Iāll survive, and the customers will eventually decide whether itās a workable model. I hope it isnāt, but I suspect it is.
This has led to some interesting developments in other areas, like Pixelmator Pro and Affinity emerging as decent alternatives to Adobeās apps. We donāt need that to happen with DAWs just yet, but itāll be interesting to see if Apple go for the same model on the desktop, and how that pans out if so.
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My iPads have mice and keyboards. And MIDI controllers and audio interfaces as well.
As to whatās better than Cubasis etc, Iāll have to try it first to answer that. The answer may be nothing is better. It may be worse. Or could be better. Very exciting.
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So the subscription model will be a great way to demo Logic Pro on the iPad.
P.S.: I was just being sarcastic and overly dramatic about the mouse and keyboard 
In this context, I wonder how Loopy Pro will feel on the desktop, for itās been designed for touch.
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