M:S Want to do tear down - to try pad modification

Hello guys,

This is my first post. I want to ask if anybody has opened the M:S or has read somewhere a procedure or have see picture on how to do it. I want to open it just to see if there is a way to modify the pads in order to improve their sensitivity. I did this few years ago to my AKAI MPC and MPD. They both had manufacturing flaws. On the AKAI MPC I replaced the pads with new ones and on the MPD I tape modified the pads. Both now are are much better for finger drumming and jamming and I just want to see if there is possibility to do the same with M:S because I like the unit a lot but only have issue with the sensitivity of the pads.

Thanks

I’ve been thinking of this as well. It’s even crossed my mind to 3D print new ones or purchasing a silicone tool to produce a sample pads. But that’s a lot of work.

Yeah something like that - 3D printing is also a good and affordable approach. To start with I was thinking of even more simple approach just to see it there is a gap between the rubber of the pad and the sensor underneath, and to fill the gap to see if the sensitivity and response will increase.

Let see if I can’t find any info online I suppose I will do it slowly my self.

Just use a pad controller or adjust to the pads as they are, can’t see this ending well with desired results. My 2 cents. Post your results if you modify it!

A guy on the Elektron Model:Samples FB group took his apart the other week to replace a dodgy FUNC button (part supplied to him by Elektron).

Here’s the instructions he posted that he said were given to him by Elektron. He posted photos too, but they’re not mine to share here. Note there’s a LOT of screws.

• Remove all encoder knobs. This can be a little bit tricky since they are quite tight. If you a have a guitar pick laying around, this can be used to heave the knob a little bit and then it will be easy to remove by hand.

• Remove the rubber feet under the unit.

• Remove the 5 screws to open the casing (one is located under the serial sticker).

• Remove the 32 screws from the PCB.

• Carefully lift up the PCB.

• Put the new button rubber mat in place. Make sure the pads and FSR film is in the right place if it has moved, matted side of the film should be towards the PCB.

• Put everything back into the panel and fasten the screws.

• Put the bottom in place and fasten the screws, then put the rubber feet back.

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Thanks very much phutyle !!
That was more or less exactly what I needed.

As for Hawk I will also try just to see a possibility to make the pads trigger from the MPD just to see it as a possibility and work flow.

I will keep you updated in the coming weeks for the results.

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Oh and if it’s not too much trouble. Pictures please!

I don’t have FB

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Here’s photos of a Model:Samples being taken apart (to paint the enclosure):

My little tip for removing the knobs/encoders: use a single piece of toilet paper, it gives you enough grip to pull them off by hand (pull straight up from the surface, don’t pull at an angle).

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Any update on how this went?

The tear down went smoothly …thanks to minimal.camera post and true cuckoo doing a re-design on his in the beginning of the covid situation. My first try with tape mod like you do on the old akai mpc and mpd improved … but not that much to be honest I still could not do a easy 16th hihat when finger drumming a beat.
I will now look into 3-d printing as other suggested to see if it will work better and if that does not work I might trow the towel on this issue.

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Has anyone manage to cleanly remove the sticker on the bottom of their unit so that they didn’t have to poke a screwdriver through it to remove the 5th screw?

Try steaming it off - works a charm for all stickers I’ve encountered. :slight_smile:

Hot air is the most reliable way to lift adhesive labels if you want to re use them in the same position, a hair dryer will do the job and a sharp blade to lift the corner of the label…

One should steam-clean their synths at least once a month, unless you’ve just given them their yearly bubble bath

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