I have had mine freeze up a few times. When this happens, the power switch stops working, so I have to unplug it in order to restart it. The last time it happened, I had a loop playing, and I was just scrolling through the fx to see how they sounded, and it froze up. I have contacted Roland about this. And I have the most current firmware as well.
Speaking of fx, it sounds to me like there is this bright digital sheen on a lot of them. I also get that from some of the preset sounds. There is no mistaking that these are emulations. I have found some basses in there that I like. I havenât dug too deep into the synth engine, and some of that digital sheen could possible be eqâd out. But for it being a Groovebox, there are definitely some usable sounds in there.
One thing about the looper. This so far only applies to the internal looping, since I have not yet tested out recording external sources. But for internal looping, the loops sound a little flat. No so much lo-fi, but it seems to lose some of its dynamics. Maybe there is a setting that can help with this that I am missing?
But this thing is really easy to learn, and most of it is pretty logical after spending just a little time with it.
Overall I am having some fun with the machine, but I am on the fence about whether or not it will stick around and be a permanent fixture. I think I feel that way with most Grooveboxes though.
So on the MC-707 you get 128 clips per project. How many clips do you get on the force per project? I think the MC-707 and the Force are very much competitors.
on the force, the maximum clip amount is unknown. Someone on GS said they tried maxing out the clips and gave up after around 250 clips⌠Guessing the clip amount is only limited by the RAM?
Every clip can of course be up to 999 bars long, like on the MPC. But clips are obviously only sequence data, the usual RAM limitations apply to sample/audio track content (about the same as on the current MPCs).
I dont know if the force and the 707 are direct competitors. Like already stated, the UIs are way different, guessing the workflows are too? Using a force is pretty much like using ableton session view with push, I donât know what using a 707 feels like, but guessing its closer to using an octatrack?
What?! I tought they didn´t mention the TR8 kits as a feature because it was crystal clear that they are on board. Like no one puts a âcomes with left and rightâ on a pair of shoes.
I thought of it as - They didnât mention that the Tr8 kits were included because they were not included. From my experience with hardware even when features are considered crystal clear they still mention them, they actually hi-light the crystal clear features. For example itâs crystal clear by looking at the front of the MC-707 itâs an 8 track sequencer, yet they still mention this in the feature list. If it included Tr8 kits I would think they would highlight this.
Sure you could confuse VA for ACB, but it is not at all âcrystal clear.â
Ah well. At least the .wav implementation is highly flexible and powerful.
Want to layer 8 different mono .wavs of different claps in L and R configuration across the 4 stereo .wav layers for a single drum sound with its own EQ? Of which there can be 16 of in a kit? Of which there can be 8 tracks of?
And nudge each of the 4 stereo .wav layers around to make a super clap?
It ainât like they tore out the ACB and replaced it with an Electric.
Off topic but menu diving is a pain. I went from maschine studio to the mkIII. Having to do a submenu / Shift+ key on the MK3 instead of just pressing it once on the studio can make my first world problems boil my blood.
One button press to get to the point beats two button presses.
From watching that video can you only use samples as one shots in drum tracks and loops in the looper, can you not load a synth hit sample into a tone track and play as a instrument ?
My brother has the Studio & I have the Mk3âŚ
I notice all of the extra buttons I have to press on the Studio, but donât notice it on the Mk3 & my brother notices all the extra buttons he has to press on the Mk3 but doesnât notice it on the Studio
For example on the Studio I have to press shift + tempo + turn the knob to adjust the tempo in increments, but on the Mk3 I just press shift.
I almost feel like there has to be a short cut on the Studio, I could barely reach the knob to turn it & I have long fingers, not sure what stubby finger people would do in that situation.
Iâm good with button combos tho⌠having to read & page thru menus slows things down more for me.
When it comes to the MC⌠it seems like they did a good mix⌠yea you have to use menus to shape your sound & set things up, but if you get everything set up & ready, you can just jam out.
Many complaints over at gearslutz about the stiff pads. Some are saying thereâs no way you can play them without hard hitting even with changes to the sensitivity. Thereâs no way roland will replace them so they are returning it:(
I noticed the comments about this. Interestingly the 101 dont have velocity sensitive pads are are very easy to tap a rhythm on. Another reason to get the smaller version.
