MC 707 / 101 : New Roland Grooveboxes

Some more questions:

Can clips have different voices/assignments so lets say track 1 clip 1 is an 808 kit, can track 1 clip 2 be a 909 kit?

So there are 8 tracks per project, 1 project in memory at a time, each track can only have 16 clips, tracks must be of a type drum, tone, looper for all clips within the track?

Once you have your 8 tracks each with their 16 clips how do you determine the combination of tracks and clips that will play - is this what the scenes are for, and are there really only 8 if so?

Does this mean that a project can only have effectively 8 sections? (Eg intro, build1, build2, main1, main2, break1, break2, main3, outro)

Can you have 16 different loops, 1 on each clip of a looper track?

Hope Iā€™m helpful here :slight_smile:

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Always!

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you can launch a whole row of clips at once, which is effectively another kind of scenes.

so, you have 16 rows of clips (which are effectively 16 additional scenes) and 8 conventional scenes that can be used for combinations of clips that are not in the same row.

16 + 8 = 24 scenes of both kinds per project. this is sufficient for really complex tracks.

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This shows the 101 if this is the kind of thing your after

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Only had mine a couple of weeks but love MC707 for sound design

@chaocrator I see, yes that seems more reasonable - I guess Iā€™m always suspicious Roland will nerf something :laughing: good to know it wasnā€™t that.

@rob_lee I will check it out on the telly tonight :+1:

Any long term Octatrack owners also got a 707? - I am under no illusions that it has the same depth for sampling, but I do notice a lot of parallels between them (looks like Roland took some influence from the OT) Mainly Iā€™m interested in freeing up the OT a bit, and the 707 looks to me like it might fit the bill, but info on the sampling side of things seems a bit scarce, I understand that samples can be brought into drum kits or as partials in the tone tracks, and obviously the clip tracks too, but does it have destructive editing like cropping bits out, fades etc in its audio editor? Any other interesting stuff you can tell me about the sampling side and differences to OT in this regard (I know it has less sampling time BTW)

Thanks!

for now, Roland is very ā€žunRolandā€œ about 707 ā€” it already got 3 great updates with lots of new features, and Roland employees are really studying what people request and implementing it.

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I havenā€™t seen fades in the sample editor but Iā€™ll look later. Hereā€™s a couple of things from the pdf



Yeah whatever you sample or chop up in the editor can be assigned to the pad/s

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Yeah, the only weird thing is that there is no proper way to send out program changes to other connected gear when launching a clip that has midi output enabled. It can send program changes, but it seems it made for midi feedback for a launch pad or something? It sends the program change immediately after you press a clip, even before it actually launches. It also always sends the program change value of the number of the clip, which is pretty uselessā€¦

in current 707/101 MIDI implementation PC messages are used for launching clips. so yes, PC message is mirrored back when a clip is queued for playing.

Couple more questions:

How many sounds in a drum kit - 16 or more? Thinking about slicing a loop into say 64 then mapping each slice to a pad, possible?

What do the 4 leds under each track number do? I donā€™t seem to be able to see them indicating anything in the videos I have watched. Maybe they were turned off?

The 4 leds under the track I think are the measures as the tracks play, the 4 green dots.
Iā€™ll check later, I think if you have 1 measure then 1 dot lights up if you have 4 measures then all 4 light up. Iā€™ll check this properly later

Itā€™s a polymetric indicator. It flashes when the pattern is cycling through.

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Another thing I love about the MC-707 is the ā€œPAD EQā€ you can get everything perfect here to your liking, you also have track EQ.

Yep thatā€™s it just read the manual on that :+1:

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Can someone give me a good recommendation for the COMP settings? I have problems finding a useful setting.

It may well be that OFF is the most useful setting. If your track really needs it, a useful setting will not be so hard to find. Trust your ears. Someone who isnā€™t hearing your track canā€™t possibly recommend a compressor setting.

One on the way, thanks to you guys who answered my questions :+1:

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yes, 16 sounds per drumkit.
thatā€™s why i often have 3 drum tracks in a project. (2 programmed + 1 live)

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It arrived today, not had much of a play yet but build seems solid, updated it to latest version, gonna get a few hours play later. First impression though, seems pretty nice, more later.

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