I just got model cycles, and wanted to know how to do polyrhythms?
First of all, welcome to the forum! You are able to change the pattern length per track very easily (function + page, change from ptn to trk I believe?) thatâs a great place to start, change the track lengths.
Yep, this is it, change to per-track length. Youâll also need to change the CHG setting to e.g. 64, this is the number of steps after which all the tracks âresyncâ to the first step, so if you leave it at 16 and your track length is e.g. 14, youâll hear 14 steps, then 2, then itâll repeat 14, 2, etc. no you donât, I was confused!
Not to be too pedantic but that will achieve polymeter and, with that, a couple of possible polyrhythms. Just throwing that out there in case the OP was after one or the other specifically.
I want my beat at 16, and staying at 1:4. Just wanna set my HH, and snare at 9 and 7. Kicks to go the full 16
Chg is just for when it will change to the next pattern. It doesnât have any effect on the pattern as it plays (like M.LEN does on the higher tier boxes).
Ha youâre absolutely right. Iâd just assumed it was the same as M LEN I think. Thatâs good to know, cheers!
I figured it out, thanks a bunch.
Are you able to get scale per track (or polymetric) patterns to change correctly? I posted about this a month or so ago but maybe I came off too indignant because I never got a response from anyone.
Basically, whenever the scale per track setting is turned on, patterns change late, usually by one measure. Thatâs how itâs been for me at least.
not yet gotta try that
Iâm just trying to figure out the âChgâ setting. In the manual it says:
âCHG Change controls for how long the active pattern plays before it loops or a cued pattern begins to playâ
But it seems that âChgâ has no effect at all when the pattern is just looping, it only effects the length of the pattern when itâs cued or chained. I was expecting polyrhythmic loops (each track having a different âLenâ setting) to reset like tdmusic suggested.
Is this a typo in the manual? (or perhaps this section was taken from the modal:samples but isnât implemented the same way on modal:cycles? Or am I not understanding something?
Yeah, think itâs a typo. The Models donât have a âmasterâ pattern length.
If you wanted that reset after âchgâ I would expect you could get it by chaining the same pattern twice or more. Havenât tried it though so I could be wrong.
EDIT: COMPLETELY INCORRECT!
Im sure mine does this? âŚjust jamming on a pattern, i have track 8 set to 5/8 and changing every 64âŚ?
So the pattern loops the first 5 steps 12 times then only gets through 4 steps on the 13th time and reverts to step 1 and starts againâŚ
Are you sure you mean the modal:cycles? The modal:cycles doesnât have a âtrack 8â
Ah yeh was in a car at the time and had 100% conviction in a lie
âŚTrack 8 does not exist correctâŚ
And with the cycling Iâm totally wrong⌠im watching it scroll now and it only counts to 5 in a continuous cycle if i stay on one patternâŚ
WARNING COMPLETE MIS INFORMATIONâŚ!!!
Itâs nice that Elektron have fixed some bugs with the new update, but based on their release notes, the pattern change issue (when scale per track setting is on) has not been fixed. My M:C is currently not with me, but has anyone tried this and can confirm whether or not itâs still an issue?
yes, thatâs polymeter.