Model:Cycles

Really ? You mean, send a PC to select the preset ? Or send many CCs to ‘turn the knobs’ remotely ?

Both

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I resisted the M:C for the longest time. I had the lowest hopes I’ve had for any Elektron device. But I’ve gotta say I’m very impressed. The kick/bass is no joke on this. And some of the preset patterns are actually really good - a couple of tweaks on some of them and I was in Autechre-land. Maybe it’s a honeymoon period but my expectations were definitely exceeded by it. Not a fan of the delay though. I actually don’t mind the colors of the unit. I kinda like it being subdued.

Here she is with my little battery pack.

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The M:C is all about expectations. I think because the M:S was like a stripped down Digitakt, a lot of people expected the M:C to be a stripped down Digitone and were disappointed when it wasn’t that.

I’ve had mine about 3 months now and, although I haven’t been playing it much in the last few weeks (due to new baby) it’s the thing I seem to want to pick up first.

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I listened. First time I heard a substantially different stuff with MC. I figured I could also augment it a bit with my iPad for a mini setup combo…

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thank you!

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I bought it:) mostly based on your vids and elektron’s playlist. I like it more than expected.

I like the idea behind it. I don’t like the horrible pads, and the wonky rubber buttons but that was expected. I made several tryout patterns already and you are right - there is enough room to wiggle and bend the machines towards something new. I’m looking forward to pairing with my iPad.

New machines would be the cherry on top!

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Lol reading your post I was like “I wrote this!” - I am 100% in the same boat as you. Trying to just use it standalone first and wrap my head around the sequencing before I get the two to talk to each other :slight_smile: but I do believe the M:C and iPad will complement each other very well.

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Cool! I know the sequencer from my DT/DN combo, more invested in the sound design aspect.

Best box since Machinedrum! Elektron keep going in this direction!

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That is actually a good thing. Much better than reviewers who act like they speak for everyone. It means if you know what you like vs what he likes then you can judge whether or not his issues with the device would apply to you - one man’s trash may be another man’s treasure and that could not be truer when it comes to music.

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I LOVE the wonky rubber mini buttons on the MC!

(Coming from an mpc 2kxl and mpc 1000 background)

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Hello, how do you think of the couple; cycle model with pioneer dj toraiz as-1? I am seriously thinking about going after them.

Well, I’m constantly doubting about this too. I also own a Digitone and Digitakt, but what keeps me (at the moment) from selling the M:C: I will probably use it for drums (and keep my other tracks of DT and DN free).

By the way, I have the same issue with the M:S and Digitakt. Samples galore, but maybe more than I actually need.

But both M:S and M:C are so immediate, but at the cost of losing time to get deeper into the Digis.

In short: rationally I should focus more on the Digis and sell the Models. Emotioanally I want to keep them all. :slight_smile:

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I read somewhere that you can also randomize parameters on the Model-series, but can’t find anything about it (apart from an app someone made as a workaround)

Anyone?

Does anyone know if there’s a way to get exact percentages on chance trigs or are they only incremental?

It’s not possible to resolve the % chance to the nearest single 1% - but I personally cannot foresee any use case where it would be beneficial or meaningful to have that degree of choice … off the top of my head it’s maybe 40 values, so on average about 2.5% per step … so taking a random percentage of e.g, 75% - if you set it at 75% for a pattern, it could conceivably be coming through as 50% on the first pass of the pattern and for subsequent pattern loops it could easily be 60 70 80 or 90 … so the only way you’ll really observe the chosen 75% chance would be if you allowed the pattern to run infinitely long or certainly over a long time - and the next time you start the pattern it could be initially weighted very differently over the short term compared to the last time - i.e. the practical significance of choosing 75% as opposed to specifically 74% or 76% would be statistically irrelevant in the real world as far as any audible difference to the listener is concerned

The only area where intuitively i think it could be noticeable to have a finer resolution would be as the chance approaches 0 or 100

It’s worth pointing out that the range isn’t restricted to ~40 values due to the ‘benefit’ … it’s because they’re using the bandwidth of the 7bit range (127 values) to also contain the other trig condition types like 1st 1:2 etc … so it won’t be changed, but tbh, i don’t see the benefit of changing it … except perhaps having finer resolution at either extreme

maybe i don’t understand your question, but i don’t see the realworld benefit of having 100 % values to choose from as opposed to about half of that given that it’s only statistically observable over a long period

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Thanks, that makes sense. I didn’t need exact percentages for their applicability. It had to do with me using a number for symbolic reasons related to a music assignment- using a particular number as a self-imposed parameter.

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So there is a guy who developed a midi controller for the M:C for albeton. It’s in the M:C thread. I’m pretty sure you can just click and type whatever percentage you want with it.

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Thanks, i’ll look into it!