Thanks a lot @brucegill
Appreciate you taking the time.
Think I will order these from Thomann.
This way I will add a DFAM to my cart 
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hahahaha, like your style!
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Just to get free postage, of course 
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They work, I use the same ones on my SubH. It’s actually difficult to find those midi breakout adapters in the EU.
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Note that the MIDI channel can be changed by sending a SysEX that you can download from Moog. They have 16 SysEX files available; one for each channel. If when you get the new cable it’s not responding, SysEX the MIDI channel over that you want it set to and test again.
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No, it’s for changing what midi channel the SubH is expecting to receive note info from. Its probables still on channel 1.
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OK 
This I had already read in the manual and actually downloaded the SysEX package.
Going to order those typa A cables.
And that DFAM as well
Might have to let go my MFB Tanzmaus though…
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Hello guys
Will receive a DFAM this week… Finally took the plunge and found a second hand one at a more than reasonable price.
Issue I have is the Befaco MIDI DIN to TRS Type A adapters are out of stock.
Would this one do the trick @brucegill?
Thanks
Assuming your plugging into a device like OT or Keyboard, and 750mm is long enough, looks right to me. Again, assuming “Tipo A” means type A.
I just prefer the adapters/dongles as you can use your normal midi cables.
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Thanks @brucegill
Yes Tipo A is Type A
I will be plugging it from Digitakt to Subharmonicon indeed
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I’m new to modular/semi
If I were to, perhaps, use something like this to submix the osc and sub outputs from the SubH:
A- Would this work? How could I power it without going full-on modular rack setup?
B- I would like to use my A4 CV outs to patch into the CV Pan inputs on this mixer to do some sequenced panning. Would this work, and how does the CV outs determine L or R? Does it use a positive and negative voltage or something? Is like MIDI where there’s a “center” position, like 64 and anything north or south of that determines L & R. I have no idea how this would work.
C- Are there any cheaper alternatives? This mixer is almost as much as the SubH
cheers
Hmm, it’s a bit tricky. you’d need to find a powered case to fit it, and those Roland modules are really deep (that one is 58mm deep for example, which is way to deep to fit one of the little 20hp 4ms pod cases that otherwise would have been perfect for this).
With regard to using CV’s, you’d need to look into the manual, but it’ll provide a voltage range for the pans (maybe -5 to +5v), you’d just set up the CV outs from the A4 (you set the range in the global settings) to have that range and then you can p-lock per step, or use envelopes of LFOs to modulate it so that part would work well.
that would all be really very expensive to do what you want to do though, especially if you are not interested in going deeper into Eurorack. there are other CV-controllable panning mixer modules that can do what you want too, but they are all pretty expensive, too. But one of the main problems with just using a mixer is that if you take the voice outs from the SubH like this, they won’t be affected by the filter or VCA envelope. Really you’d need more modules: a stereo filter, VCAs, etc too. It would start to get very expensive fast (although would definitely be a pretty cool way to work with the SubH). You could use a regular cheap standalone mixer to pan the voices, but again it won’t have any filtering or envelope applied.
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Thanks, yeah, looks expensive.
Like spikysimon says, it is an expensive route to go down, I have been building a system to do this over the past year and it is good to have control over those 6 moog osc’s. Other options you might consider are Jumble Henge , (fixed filtering and panning) but the A4 cv outs could then control a VCA of which there are lots to choose from and, if you get a 6 channel VCA you could control each voice with something like Stages, but the possibilities quickly get out of hand…!
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I just found VCV rack from this thread and my head is spinning.
There’s even an emulation of the SubH some guy made for $15.
All I really want out of this stuff is the sequencing and routing without making the money/time investment in building a hardware modular rig. (Not ready to go down that rabbit hole)
If VCV Rack can do the sequencing I think it can do, I’m all set. Just gonna trigger my analog gear with it and call it day.
I can’t believe I’ve missed this all these years.
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Probably your best option if you are happy with software!
I’m just gonna make some TouchOSC templates for the sequencers so I can still have some hands-on.
I think it’s gonna be cool
Like the others, I wouldn’t recommend going modular just for this, but what I have in my rack is an ADDAC805.VS2 “VC Signal Router” which has six mono inputs and allows various combinations of cross-fade and panning. It won’t do everything the 531 will, but it is less than half the size and less than half the price. (I have a few other modules with various mixing capabilities but this is the one that can do voltage-controlled panning.)
You can do some sequenced panning by taking two mono signals back into the A4 and doing it there. Again, not full capability, but it might suffice.
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Does anyone have both, Minitaur and Subharmonicon? I am wondering which one can produce better (thicker) bass. I have Mother-32 and Subharmonicon, and I don’t know if I’m doing something wrong but I am using both with MIDI keyboard and in my opinion M32 has better low end despite only one oscillator (although I’m also adding some PWM to mimic second VCO).
I am wondering how does Subharmonicon compares with Minitaur in low end range? SubH seems to produce a unique low end, not as thick as Minitaur but I cannot find any videos comparing both side by side.